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This week’s learning is sponsored by Dina Becker for a refuah shleima for Reuven Ephraim ben Shoshana (Ron Becker).

Today’s daf is sponsored by Elana Kermaier in honor of her dear father Moshe Fox’s fourth yahrzeit – lilui nishmat Moshe Yehuda ben HaRav Binyaimin v’Chaya Tzipora. My father would be equally surprised and proud that I am learning the Daf. And by Ira and Natanya Slomowitz in memory of Ira’s father, Rabbi Shlomo Slomowitz, HaRav Shlomo ben HaRav Dov Tzvi v’Masha on his yahrzeit. 

A bechor, firstborn, of an animal is given to the kohen and must be sacrificed. However, if it is blemished from before Yom Tov with a permanent blemish, the kohen can slaughter it and eat it. Only an expert can determine if it has a blemish that disqualifies it from being sacrificed. If a bechor falls into a pit on Yom Tov can an expert go down into the pit to check if the animal was blemished to then permit the owner to take it out and slaughter it? Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon disagree. Rabbi Shimon ben Menasia explains according to Rabbi Shimon’s opinion that there are three different cases. Rabba bar Rav Huna explains that in one case it is forbidden entirely, in another, one cannot send an expert but if one did and it was blemished, they are permitted to slaughter it, and in the third, they can check it ab initio. They raise a difficulty against his explanation from a braita that they taught in Israel and reject his explanation. Hillel asked Rava if there is muktze for half a Shabbat, meaning if something usable when Shabbat came in and then became not usable and then usable again, would it be considered muktze for the rest of Shabbat, even though it is usable again? The Gemara brings several sources to try to determine the answer to the question but in the end, is unsuccessful.

 

Beitzah 26

אִם יֵשׁ בּוֹ מוּם — יַעֲלֶה וְיִשְׁחוֹט, וְאִם לָאו — לֹא יִשְׁחוֹט. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: כֹּל שֶׁאֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר מִבְּעוֹד יוֹם, אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן —

If it has a permanent blemish, owing to which it may be slaughtered and eaten, he may raise it from the cistern and slaughter it; but if it does not have a blemish, or if its blemish is temporary, he may not slaughter it. Rabbi Shimon says: Even if it has a blemish, it is prohibited to slaughter it, as any firstborn animal whose blemish is not perceptible while it is still day, i.e., on the day before the Festival, is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival.

גְּמָ׳ בְּמַאי קָא מִפַּלְגִי? אִי נֵימָא בְּרוֹאִין מוּמִין קָמִפַּלְגִי, דְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה סָבַר: רוֹאִין מוּמִין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, וְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן סָבַר: אֵין רוֹאִין מוּמִין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, וְלִפַּלְגוּ בְּרוֹאִין מוּמִין דְּעָלְמָא!

GEMARA: The Gemara asks: With regard to what principle do Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon disagree? If we say that they disagree about whether or not one may examine blemishes on a Festival, such that Rabbi Yehuda holds that one may examine blemishes on a Festival, and Rabbi Shimon holds that one may not examine blemishes on a Festival, if so, let them disagree with regard to examining blemishes in general on a Festival and not only with respect to the particular case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern.

בְּכוֹר שֶׁנָּפַל לַבּוֹר אִצְטְרִיכָא לֵיהּ, סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ אָמֵינָא: מִשּׁוּם צַעַר בַּעֲלֵי חַיִּים לַעֲרֵים וְלַסְּקֵיהּ כְּרַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ — קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

The Gemara answers: It was necessary to teach the disagreement with regard to the case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern, as it could enter your mind to say that because of the matter of the suffering of living creatures, one should employ an artifice to circumvent the halakha and raise the animal from the cistern. This would be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehoshua, who states elsewhere (37a) with regard to a different case that one may employ an artifice in order to rescue an animal that fell into a cistern on a Festival. Therefore, the mishna teaches us that Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon disagree even in the case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern.

אִי הָכִי, ״לֹא יִשְׁחוֹט״? ״לֹא יַעֲלֶה וְיִשְׁחוֹט״ מִבְּעֵי לֵיהּ! לָא צְרִיכָא — דַּעֲבַר וְאַסְּקֵיהּ, סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ אָמֵינָא: לִשְׁחֲטֵיהּ, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

The Gemara asks: If so, if the mishna mentions the case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern in order to teach that an artifice may not be employed to raise the animal from the cistern, the phrase: He may not slaughter it, is inaccurate. Rather, it should have stated: He may not raise the animal and slaughter it. The Gemara answers: No, this teaching is necessary in a case where he transgressed the prohibition and already raised it, as it could enter your mind to say that he may now slaughter it. Therefore, the mishna teaches us that even then he may not do so.

לִשְׁחֲטֵיהּ?! הָא תָּם הוּא! לָא צְרִיכָא, דִּנְפַל בֵּיהּ מוּמָא. וְהָא מוּקְצֶה הוּא!

The Gemara expresses wonder at this answer: How could one think that he may now slaughter it? Isn’t the animal unblemished? How could one imagine that it is permitted to slaughter a firstborn that is unblemished? The Gemara answers: This teaching is necessary only in a case where it developed a blemish after it fell. The Gemara challenges this argument: But how could one think that he may now slaughter the animal? Doesn’t it fall into the category of muktze, as it was not fit to be eaten on the eve of the Festival, since at that time it was still unblemished? In that case, it should remain in the category of muktze for the duration of the Festival.

אֶלָּא: דִּנְפַל בֵּיהּ מוּם עוֹבֵר מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב, וְהַשְׁתָּא הֲוָה לֵיהּ מוּם קָבוּעַ. מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: דְּדַעְתֵּיהּ עִלָּוֵיהּ, וְנִשְׁחֲטֵיהּ, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

Rather, the mishna is speaking of a case where the animal developed a temporary blemish, one that might eventually heal, on the eve of the Festival, and now, after falling, it has a permanent blemish. Lest you say that his mind was set on the animal as food already before the Festival due to the temporary blemish and therefore he should now be allowed to slaughter it, the mishna teaches us that since it was not fit to be eaten before the Festival, it is not considered prepared for use on the Festival. Rather, it falls into the category of muktze and may not be slaughtered.

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: בְּכוֹר תָּם שֶׁנָּפַל לַבּוֹר, רַבִּי יְהוּדָה הַנָּשִׂיא אוֹמֵר: יֵרֵד מוּמְחֶה וְיִרְאֶה, אִם יֵשׁ בּוֹ מוּם — יַעֲלֶה וְיִשְׁחוֹט, וְאִם לָאו — לֹא יִשְׁחוֹט. אָמַר לוֹ רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן מְנַסְיָא: הֲרֵי אָמְרוּ אֵין רוֹאִין מוּמִין בְּיוֹם טוֹב. כֵּיצַד? נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב, אֵין מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ בְּיוֹם טוֹב. נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם

The Sages taught the following baraita: With regard to an unblemished firstborn that fell into a cistern on a Festival, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: An expert in these matters goes down into the cistern and examines the animal. If it now has a permanent blemish as a result of the fall, he may raise it from the cistern and slaughter it; but if not, then even if he proceeds to raise it, he may not slaughter it, even if afterwards it develops a blemish. Rabbi Shimon ben Menasya said to him: The Sages of earlier generations already said that one may not examine blemishes on a Festival. How so? If a blemish came into being on the eve of a Festival, one may not examine it on the Festival itself to see whether it is in fact of the type that permits the animal to be slaughtered. And if the blemish came into being

בְּיוֹם טוֹב, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן. וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד הוּא וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן.

on the Festival itself, Rabbi Shimon says: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival; therefore, even if it was examined by an expert, it may not be slaughtered. And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared for use on the Festival.

דָּרֵשׁ רַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא: נוֹלַד הוּא וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ בְּיוֹם טוֹב לְכַתְּחִלָּה. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב נַחְמָן, אַבָּא תָּנֵי: אִם עָבַר וּבִקְּרוֹ — מְבוּקָּר, וְאַתְּ אָמְרַתְּ מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ לְכַתְּחִלָּה!

Rabba bar Rav Huna taught the halakha as follows: If a firstborn was born with its blemish, experts may examine it on a Festival ab initio, and if the blemish is found to be permanent, the animal may then be slaughtered. Rav Naḥman said to him: Father would teach on this matter that if he transgressed and examined it, it is considered examined after the fact, and you say that one may examine it even ab initio?

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: כְּוָתֵיהּ דְּרַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא מִסְתַּבְּרָא, מִדְּקָתָנֵי תְּלָתָא בָּבֵי: נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב — אֵין מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ בְּיוֹם טוֹב. לְכַתְּחִלָּה הוּא דְּלָא, הָא דִּיעֲבַד — שַׁפִּיר דָּמֵי.

Abaye said: It stands to reason that the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rabba bar Rav Huna from the fact that the baraita is taught in three parts, which suggests that each part contains a novel halakha. The first section states: If a firstborn developed a blemish on the eve of a Festival one may not examine it on the Festival itself, from which one can learn that it is only ab initio that one may not examine it; but after the fact, it seems well, and the examination is valid.

נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם בְּיוֹם טוֹב, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן — דַּאֲפִילּוּ דִּיעֲבַד נָמֵי לָא. וַהֲדַר תָּנֵי: וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ, שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן — דַּאֲפִילּוּ לְכַתְּחִלָּה נָמֵי.

The second section of the baraita states: If it developed a blemish on the Festival itself, Rabbi Shimon says: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival. In other words, even after the fact, no, if the animal was examined by an expert, it may not be slaughtered and eaten. And then in the third section it teaches: And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared for use on the Festival. The fact that the baraita taught this halakha as an independent clause indicates that even ab initio as well, the animal may be examined.

וְהָא כִּי אֲתָא רַב אוֹשַׁעְיָא, אֲתָא וְאַיְיתִי מַתְנִיתָא בִּידֵיהּ: בֵּין שֶׁנּוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב, וּבֵין שֶׁנּוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם בְּיוֹם טוֹב, חֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן.

The Gemara raises an objection: But isn’t it so that when Rav Oshaya came from Eretz Yisrael to Babylonia, he came and brought the following baraita in his hand: Whether the animal developed a blemish on the eve of the Festival or it developed a blemish on the Festival itself, the Rabbis say: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared for use on the Festival, so that even after the fact, if the animal was examined, it may not be slaughtered and eaten. According to this, the allowance granted in the case of a firstborn that was born with its blemish can be only after the fact, as argued by Rav Naḥman, and not ab initio, as maintained by Rabba bar Rav Huna. Why, then, does Abaye accept the opinion of the latter and not that of the former?

וְאֶלָּא קַשְׁיָא הָךְ! הָהִיא — אַדָּא בַּר אוּכָּמֵי הִיא, דִּמְשַׁבֵּשׁ וְתָנֵי.

The Gemara asks: But if so, that baraita cited earlier, which presents these halakhot differently, is difficult. The Gemara answers: This does not pose a problem, as that baraita was taught by Adda bar Ukhmei, who would often confuse the opinions in the text and teach an inaccurate version of the dispute; therefore, his version is unreliable.

אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן בַּר יִצְחָק: מַתְנִיתִין נָמֵי דַּיְיקָא. דְּקָתָנֵי, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: כֹּל שֶׁאֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב — אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן. מַאי אֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר? אִילֵּימָא שֶׁאֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר כְּלָל — פְּשִׁיטָא, צְרִיכָא לְמֵימַר?

Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: The mishna is also precise in its wording according to the opinion that no blemish may be examined ab initio. As the mishna teaches that Rabbi Shimon says: Even if the animal has a blemish, it is prohibited to slaughter it, since any firstborn animal whose blemish is not perceptible on the eve of the Festival while it is still day is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival. What is the meaning of the phrase: Whose blemish is not perceptible? If we say that its blemish is not perceptible at all, it is obvious. Need it be said that an animal whose blemish was not perceptible at all prior to the Festival is not considered prepared for use on the Festival?

אֶלָּא, דְּלָא אִתְחֲזִי לְחָכָם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב אִם מוּם קָבוּעַ אִם מוּם עוֹבֵר. קָתָנֵי מִיהַת אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן, שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ.

Rather, one must say that the animal had a perceptible blemish, but it was not shown to a Sage on the eve of the Festival to determine whether it is a permanent blemish or a temporary blemish. In any event, the mishna teaches: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival, which indicates that it is not considered prepared even after the fact. It follows that the allowance granted in the case of a firstborn that was born with its blemish is also only after the fact, but the blemish may not be examined ab initio. The Gemara concludes: Indeed, learn from this that this is so.

בָּעֵי מִינֵּיהּ הִלֵּל מֵרָבָא: יֵשׁ מוּקְצֶה לַחֲצִי שַׁבָּת אוֹ אֵין מוּקְצֶה לַחֲצִי שַׁבָּת? הֵיכִי דָמֵי: אִי דְּאִחֲזִי בֵּין הַשְּׁמָשׁוֹת — אִחֲזִי. אִי דְּלָא אִחֲזִי — לָא אִחֲזִי?

§ Hillel raised a dilemma before Rava: Is there a prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat or is there no prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat? The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of this case? If an item was fit for eating or for some other purpose at twilight between Friday and Shabbat, it would then be fit for the entire Shabbat. And if it was not fit at twilight, it is not fit for the entire day, as anything considered muktze at twilight remains so throughout Shabbat. How, then, could there be a case of an item that is considered muktze for half of Shabbat?

לָא צְרִיכָא: דְּאִחֲזִי, וַהֲדַר אִדְּחִי, וַהֲדַר אִחֲזִי. מַאי? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: יֵשׁ מוּקְצֶה.

The Gemara explains: No, it is necessary to raise this dilemma in a case where the item had once been fit for use, and then became disqualified on Shabbat itself for some reason, and then once again became fit. It is about such a case that Hillel asked: What is the halakha? Rava said to Hillel: There is a prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat, that is to say, once an item becomes disqualified for use on Shabbat, it retains that status for the rest of the day.

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ: וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן. וְאַמַּאי? נֵימָא: הַאי בְּכוֹר מֵעִיקָּרָא הֲוָה חֲזֵי אַגַּב אִמֵּיהּ, אִתְיְלִיד לֵיהּ — אִדְּחִי לֵיהּ, אַחְזְיֵיהּ לְחָכָם — אִשְׁתְּרִי לֵיהּ!

Hillel raised an objection from the previously cited baraita that taught: And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared before the Festival for use on the Festival. But why should this be? Let us say as follows: This firstborn was fit at the outset to be eaten on account of its mother, as had its mother been slaughtered before giving birth to the firstborn, it would have been permitted to eat them both. This being the case, when the firstborn was born, it became disqualified, since once a firstborn is born, it may not be eaten until it acquires a permanent blemish. And later, when he showed it to a Sage, it once again became permitted to him. This shows that although the animal had the status of muktze for part of the day of the Festival, it did not retain that status for the entire day.

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב סָפְרָא: כְּגוֹן דְּיָתְבִי דַּיָּינֵי הָתָם.

Abaye said, and some say it was Rav Safra who said: Here, the baraita is referring to a case where judges were sitting there, observing the firstborn as it was being born, and they immediately saw that it was blemished. Therefore, the animal never lost its permitted status even for a moment.

אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אֵין מוּקְצֶה לַחֲצִי שַׁבָּת. לֵימָא מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ: וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן. וְהָא בְּכוֹר מֵעִיקָּרָא הֲוָה חֲזִי אַגַּב אִמֵּיהּ, אִתְיְלִיד לֵיהּ — אִדְּחִי לֵיהּ, אַחְזְיֵיהּ לְחָכָם — אִשְׁתְּרִי לֵיהּ.

Some say that Rava said the opposite to Hillel: There is no prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat, that is to say, even if an item becomes disqualified for use on Shabbat, once it becomes fit again, it is no longer prohibited. The Gemara responds: Let us say that the previously cited baraita supports Rava: And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared before the Festival for use on the Festival. But wasn’t this firstborn fit to be eaten at the outset on account of its mother; and then when it was born it became disqualified; and then later, when he showed it to a Sage, it once again became permitted to him? This indicates that for half of Shabbat there is no prohibition of muktze.

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב סָפְרָא: כְּגוֹן דְּיָתְבִי דַּיָּינֵי הָתָם.

Abaye said, and some say it was Rav Safra who said: This proof is inconclusive, as the baraita may be referring to a case where judges were sitting there when the firstborn was born, and they immediately saw that it was blemished; therefore the animal never acquired the status of muktze at all.

תָּא שְׁמַע: הָיָה אוֹכֵל בַּעֲנָבִים, וְהוֹתִיר וְהֶעֱלָן לַגָּג לַעֲשׂוֹת מֵהֶן צִמּוּקִין, בִּתְאֵנִים, וְהוֹתִיר וְהֶעֱלָן לַגָּג לַעֲשׂוֹת מֵהֶן גְּרוֹגְרוֹת — לֹא יֹאכַל מֵהֶן עַד שֶׁיַּזְמִין מִבְּעוֹד יוֹם. וְכֵן אַתָּה מוֹצֵא בַּאֲפַרְסְקִין וּבַחֲבוּשִׁין וּבִשְׁאָר כׇּל מִינֵי פֵירוֹת.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a proof from a different baraita: If one was eating grapes and left some over and took them up to the roof to dry in order to make them into raisins, or if he was eating figs and left some over and took them up to the roof in order to make them into dried figs, he may not eat from them on Shabbat unless he designates them as food to be eaten while it is still day. Otherwise, they are prohibited as muktze. And you would find the same with regard to peaches, and quinces, and all other types of fruit that one left out to dry. It is prohibited to eat any of them on Shabbat due to the prohibition of muktze.

הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דַּחֲזוּ — לְמָה לֵיהּ הַזְמָנָה? אִי דְּלָא חֲזוּ — כִּי אַזְמֵין לְהוּ מַאי הָוֵי!

The Gemara proceeds to clarify this baraita: What are the circumstances? If they are fit to be eaten, as they have already dried, why does he require prior designation? Since he placed them there in order to eat them after they dried, they should be considered food that has been designated to be eaten. And if they are not fit to be eaten, as they are yet not dry, even if he designates them the day before, what of it? Of what use is such designation, seeing that the fruit is still unfit to be eaten?

וְכִי תֵּימָא, דְּלָא יָדַע אִי חֲזוּ אִי לָא חֲזוּ, וְהָאָמַר רַב כָּהֲנָא: מוּקְצֶה שֶׁיָּבַשׁ וְאֵין הַבְּעָלִים מַכִּירִין בּוֹ — מוּתָּר.

And if you say the baraita is referring to a case where he could not ascend to the roof to examine them, and therefore he did not know whether they were fit or unfit, so that his designation was conditional, there is a difficulty. As didn’t Rav Kahana say: If fruit had been set aside for drying, and it dried and became fit for eating before Shabbat, but the owner did not know about it before Shabbat but only on Shabbat, the fruit is permitted, since he removed it from his mind only for as long as it would be unfit for eating.

אֶלָּא לָאו, דִּחֲזוֹ וְאִדְּחוֹ, וַהֲדַר אִחֲזוֹ. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ אֵין מוּקְצֶה, לְמָה לְהוּ הַזְמָנָה? אֶלָּא מַאי יֵשׁ מוּקְצֶה? כִּי אַזְמֵין לְהוּ מַאי הָוֵי!

Rather, is the baraita not referring to a case where the fruits were fit, and then became disqualified, and then once again became fit, and therefore they have the status of muktze? And if you say that there is no prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat, why do they require prior designation? The Gemara refutes this argument: Rather, what then do you say, that there is in fact a prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat? In that case, if he designates them the day before, what of it? How does his designation permit that which is prohibited as muktze?

לָא צְרִיכָא: דְּאִחֲזוֹ וְלָא אִחֲזוֹ. דְּאִיכָּא אִינָשֵׁי דְּאָכְלִי, וְאִיכָּא אִינָשֵׁי דְּלָא אָכְלִי. אַזְמֵין — גַּלִּי דַּעְתֵּיהּ, לָא אַזְמֵין — לָא גַּלִּי דַּעְתֵּיהּ.

The Gemara answers: No, the baraita is necessary for a case where the fruits were fit but not completely fit, meaning that there are people who eat them in that state and there are other people who do not eat them. Therefore, if he designated them as food to be eaten, he has revealed his intention that he is included among those who do eat them; if he did not designate them as food, he has not revealed his intention. Therefore, no proof can be adduced from here.

אָמַר רַבִּי זֵירָא: תָּא שְׁמַע מִפּוֹלִין וַעֲדָשִׁים. דְּהָא פּוֹלִין וַעֲדָשִׁים מֵעִיקָּרָא חֲזוּ לָכוֹס, שְׁדִינְהוּ בִּקְדֵרָה — אִדְּחוֹ לְהוּ,

Rabbi Zeira said: Come and hear a resolution to the problem raised above from the halakha governing beans and lentils cooked on a Festival. As beans and lentils at the outset, at twilight, when they are still raw and uncooked, are fit to be chewed as they are and are therefore not in the category of muktze; then, when he casts them into the pot to cook them, they become disqualified because while they are being cooked they are fit neither to be chewed raw nor to be eaten cooked.

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Beitzah 26

אִם יֵשׁ בּוֹ מוּם — יַעֲלֶה וְיִשְׁחוֹט, וְאִם לָאו — לֹא יִשְׁחוֹט. רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: כֹּל שֶׁאֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר מִבְּעוֹד יוֹם, אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן —

If it has a permanent blemish, owing to which it may be slaughtered and eaten, he may raise it from the cistern and slaughter it; but if it does not have a blemish, or if its blemish is temporary, he may not slaughter it. Rabbi Shimon says: Even if it has a blemish, it is prohibited to slaughter it, as any firstborn animal whose blemish is not perceptible while it is still day, i.e., on the day before the Festival, is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival.

גְּמָ׳ בְּמַאי קָא מִפַּלְגִי? אִי נֵימָא בְּרוֹאִין מוּמִין קָמִפַּלְגִי, דְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה סָבַר: רוֹאִין מוּמִין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, וְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן סָבַר: אֵין רוֹאִין מוּמִין בְּיוֹם טוֹב, וְלִפַּלְגוּ בְּרוֹאִין מוּמִין דְּעָלְמָא!

GEMARA: The Gemara asks: With regard to what principle do Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon disagree? If we say that they disagree about whether or not one may examine blemishes on a Festival, such that Rabbi Yehuda holds that one may examine blemishes on a Festival, and Rabbi Shimon holds that one may not examine blemishes on a Festival, if so, let them disagree with regard to examining blemishes in general on a Festival and not only with respect to the particular case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern.

בְּכוֹר שֶׁנָּפַל לַבּוֹר אִצְטְרִיכָא לֵיהּ, סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ אָמֵינָא: מִשּׁוּם צַעַר בַּעֲלֵי חַיִּים לַעֲרֵים וְלַסְּקֵיהּ כְּרַבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ — קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

The Gemara answers: It was necessary to teach the disagreement with regard to the case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern, as it could enter your mind to say that because of the matter of the suffering of living creatures, one should employ an artifice to circumvent the halakha and raise the animal from the cistern. This would be in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehoshua, who states elsewhere (37a) with regard to a different case that one may employ an artifice in order to rescue an animal that fell into a cistern on a Festival. Therefore, the mishna teaches us that Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon disagree even in the case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern.

אִי הָכִי, ״לֹא יִשְׁחוֹט״? ״לֹא יַעֲלֶה וְיִשְׁחוֹט״ מִבְּעֵי לֵיהּ! לָא צְרִיכָא — דַּעֲבַר וְאַסְּקֵיהּ, סָלְקָא דַּעְתָּךְ אָמֵינָא: לִשְׁחֲטֵיהּ, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

The Gemara asks: If so, if the mishna mentions the case of a firstborn that fell into a cistern in order to teach that an artifice may not be employed to raise the animal from the cistern, the phrase: He may not slaughter it, is inaccurate. Rather, it should have stated: He may not raise the animal and slaughter it. The Gemara answers: No, this teaching is necessary in a case where he transgressed the prohibition and already raised it, as it could enter your mind to say that he may now slaughter it. Therefore, the mishna teaches us that even then he may not do so.

לִשְׁחֲטֵיהּ?! הָא תָּם הוּא! לָא צְרִיכָא, דִּנְפַל בֵּיהּ מוּמָא. וְהָא מוּקְצֶה הוּא!

The Gemara expresses wonder at this answer: How could one think that he may now slaughter it? Isn’t the animal unblemished? How could one imagine that it is permitted to slaughter a firstborn that is unblemished? The Gemara answers: This teaching is necessary only in a case where it developed a blemish after it fell. The Gemara challenges this argument: But how could one think that he may now slaughter the animal? Doesn’t it fall into the category of muktze, as it was not fit to be eaten on the eve of the Festival, since at that time it was still unblemished? In that case, it should remain in the category of muktze for the duration of the Festival.

אֶלָּא: דִּנְפַל בֵּיהּ מוּם עוֹבֵר מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב, וְהַשְׁתָּא הֲוָה לֵיהּ מוּם קָבוּעַ. מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא: דְּדַעְתֵּיהּ עִלָּוֵיהּ, וְנִשְׁחֲטֵיהּ, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.

Rather, the mishna is speaking of a case where the animal developed a temporary blemish, one that might eventually heal, on the eve of the Festival, and now, after falling, it has a permanent blemish. Lest you say that his mind was set on the animal as food already before the Festival due to the temporary blemish and therefore he should now be allowed to slaughter it, the mishna teaches us that since it was not fit to be eaten before the Festival, it is not considered prepared for use on the Festival. Rather, it falls into the category of muktze and may not be slaughtered.

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: בְּכוֹר תָּם שֶׁנָּפַל לַבּוֹר, רַבִּי יְהוּדָה הַנָּשִׂיא אוֹמֵר: יֵרֵד מוּמְחֶה וְיִרְאֶה, אִם יֵשׁ בּוֹ מוּם — יַעֲלֶה וְיִשְׁחוֹט, וְאִם לָאו — לֹא יִשְׁחוֹט. אָמַר לוֹ רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן מְנַסְיָא: הֲרֵי אָמְרוּ אֵין רוֹאִין מוּמִין בְּיוֹם טוֹב. כֵּיצַד? נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב, אֵין מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ בְּיוֹם טוֹב. נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם

The Sages taught the following baraita: With regard to an unblemished firstborn that fell into a cistern on a Festival, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: An expert in these matters goes down into the cistern and examines the animal. If it now has a permanent blemish as a result of the fall, he may raise it from the cistern and slaughter it; but if not, then even if he proceeds to raise it, he may not slaughter it, even if afterwards it develops a blemish. Rabbi Shimon ben Menasya said to him: The Sages of earlier generations already said that one may not examine blemishes on a Festival. How so? If a blemish came into being on the eve of a Festival, one may not examine it on the Festival itself to see whether it is in fact of the type that permits the animal to be slaughtered. And if the blemish came into being

בְּיוֹם טוֹב, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן. וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד הוּא וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן.

on the Festival itself, Rabbi Shimon says: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival; therefore, even if it was examined by an expert, it may not be slaughtered. And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared for use on the Festival.

דָּרֵשׁ רַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא: נוֹלַד הוּא וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ בְּיוֹם טוֹב לְכַתְּחִלָּה. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב נַחְמָן, אַבָּא תָּנֵי: אִם עָבַר וּבִקְּרוֹ — מְבוּקָּר, וְאַתְּ אָמְרַתְּ מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ לְכַתְּחִלָּה!

Rabba bar Rav Huna taught the halakha as follows: If a firstborn was born with its blemish, experts may examine it on a Festival ab initio, and if the blemish is found to be permanent, the animal may then be slaughtered. Rav Naḥman said to him: Father would teach on this matter that if he transgressed and examined it, it is considered examined after the fact, and you say that one may examine it even ab initio?

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי: כְּוָתֵיהּ דְּרַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא מִסְתַּבְּרָא, מִדְּקָתָנֵי תְּלָתָא בָּבֵי: נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב — אֵין מְבַקְּרִין אוֹתוֹ בְּיוֹם טוֹב. לְכַתְּחִלָּה הוּא דְּלָא, הָא דִּיעֲבַד — שַׁפִּיר דָּמֵי.

Abaye said: It stands to reason that the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rabba bar Rav Huna from the fact that the baraita is taught in three parts, which suggests that each part contains a novel halakha. The first section states: If a firstborn developed a blemish on the eve of a Festival one may not examine it on the Festival itself, from which one can learn that it is only ab initio that one may not examine it; but after the fact, it seems well, and the examination is valid.

נוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם בְּיוֹם טוֹב, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן — דַּאֲפִילּוּ דִּיעֲבַד נָמֵי לָא. וַהֲדַר תָּנֵי: וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ, שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן — דַּאֲפִילּוּ לְכַתְּחִלָּה נָמֵי.

The second section of the baraita states: If it developed a blemish on the Festival itself, Rabbi Shimon says: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival. In other words, even after the fact, no, if the animal was examined by an expert, it may not be slaughtered and eaten. And then in the third section it teaches: And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared for use on the Festival. The fact that the baraita taught this halakha as an independent clause indicates that even ab initio as well, the animal may be examined.

וְהָא כִּי אֲתָא רַב אוֹשַׁעְיָא, אֲתָא וְאַיְיתִי מַתְנִיתָא בִּידֵיהּ: בֵּין שֶׁנּוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב, וּבֵין שֶׁנּוֹלַד בּוֹ מוּם בְּיוֹם טוֹב, חֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים: אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן.

The Gemara raises an objection: But isn’t it so that when Rav Oshaya came from Eretz Yisrael to Babylonia, he came and brought the following baraita in his hand: Whether the animal developed a blemish on the eve of the Festival or it developed a blemish on the Festival itself, the Rabbis say: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared for use on the Festival, so that even after the fact, if the animal was examined, it may not be slaughtered and eaten. According to this, the allowance granted in the case of a firstborn that was born with its blemish can be only after the fact, as argued by Rav Naḥman, and not ab initio, as maintained by Rabba bar Rav Huna. Why, then, does Abaye accept the opinion of the latter and not that of the former?

וְאֶלָּא קַשְׁיָא הָךְ! הָהִיא — אַדָּא בַּר אוּכָּמֵי הִיא, דִּמְשַׁבֵּשׁ וְתָנֵי.

The Gemara asks: But if so, that baraita cited earlier, which presents these halakhot differently, is difficult. The Gemara answers: This does not pose a problem, as that baraita was taught by Adda bar Ukhmei, who would often confuse the opinions in the text and teach an inaccurate version of the dispute; therefore, his version is unreliable.

אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן בַּר יִצְחָק: מַתְנִיתִין נָמֵי דַּיְיקָא. דְּקָתָנֵי, רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: כֹּל שֶׁאֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב — אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן. מַאי אֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר? אִילֵּימָא שֶׁאֵין מוּמוֹ נִיכָּר כְּלָל — פְּשִׁיטָא, צְרִיכָא לְמֵימַר?

Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: The mishna is also precise in its wording according to the opinion that no blemish may be examined ab initio. As the mishna teaches that Rabbi Shimon says: Even if the animal has a blemish, it is prohibited to slaughter it, since any firstborn animal whose blemish is not perceptible on the eve of the Festival while it is still day is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival. What is the meaning of the phrase: Whose blemish is not perceptible? If we say that its blemish is not perceptible at all, it is obvious. Need it be said that an animal whose blemish was not perceptible at all prior to the Festival is not considered prepared for use on the Festival?

אֶלָּא, דְּלָא אִתְחֲזִי לְחָכָם מֵעֶרֶב יוֹם טוֹב אִם מוּם קָבוּעַ אִם מוּם עוֹבֵר. קָתָנֵי מִיהַת אֵין זֶה מִן הַמּוּכָן, שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ.

Rather, one must say that the animal had a perceptible blemish, but it was not shown to a Sage on the eve of the Festival to determine whether it is a permanent blemish or a temporary blemish. In any event, the mishna teaches: It is not considered to be among the animals prepared prior to the Festival for use on the Festival, which indicates that it is not considered prepared even after the fact. It follows that the allowance granted in the case of a firstborn that was born with its blemish is also only after the fact, but the blemish may not be examined ab initio. The Gemara concludes: Indeed, learn from this that this is so.

בָּעֵי מִינֵּיהּ הִלֵּל מֵרָבָא: יֵשׁ מוּקְצֶה לַחֲצִי שַׁבָּת אוֹ אֵין מוּקְצֶה לַחֲצִי שַׁבָּת? הֵיכִי דָמֵי: אִי דְּאִחֲזִי בֵּין הַשְּׁמָשׁוֹת — אִחֲזִי. אִי דְּלָא אִחֲזִי — לָא אִחֲזִי?

§ Hillel raised a dilemma before Rava: Is there a prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat or is there no prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat? The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of this case? If an item was fit for eating or for some other purpose at twilight between Friday and Shabbat, it would then be fit for the entire Shabbat. And if it was not fit at twilight, it is not fit for the entire day, as anything considered muktze at twilight remains so throughout Shabbat. How, then, could there be a case of an item that is considered muktze for half of Shabbat?

לָא צְרִיכָא: דְּאִחֲזִי, וַהֲדַר אִדְּחִי, וַהֲדַר אִחֲזִי. מַאי? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: יֵשׁ מוּקְצֶה.

The Gemara explains: No, it is necessary to raise this dilemma in a case where the item had once been fit for use, and then became disqualified on Shabbat itself for some reason, and then once again became fit. It is about such a case that Hillel asked: What is the halakha? Rava said to Hillel: There is a prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat, that is to say, once an item becomes disqualified for use on Shabbat, it retains that status for the rest of the day.

אֵיתִיבֵיהּ: וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן. וְאַמַּאי? נֵימָא: הַאי בְּכוֹר מֵעִיקָּרָא הֲוָה חֲזֵי אַגַּב אִמֵּיהּ, אִתְיְלִיד לֵיהּ — אִדְּחִי לֵיהּ, אַחְזְיֵיהּ לְחָכָם — אִשְׁתְּרִי לֵיהּ!

Hillel raised an objection from the previously cited baraita that taught: And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared before the Festival for use on the Festival. But why should this be? Let us say as follows: This firstborn was fit at the outset to be eaten on account of its mother, as had its mother been slaughtered before giving birth to the firstborn, it would have been permitted to eat them both. This being the case, when the firstborn was born, it became disqualified, since once a firstborn is born, it may not be eaten until it acquires a permanent blemish. And later, when he showed it to a Sage, it once again became permitted to him. This shows that although the animal had the status of muktze for part of the day of the Festival, it did not retain that status for the entire day.

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב סָפְרָא: כְּגוֹן דְּיָתְבִי דַּיָּינֵי הָתָם.

Abaye said, and some say it was Rav Safra who said: Here, the baraita is referring to a case where judges were sitting there, observing the firstborn as it was being born, and they immediately saw that it was blemished. Therefore, the animal never lost its permitted status even for a moment.

אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אֵין מוּקְצֶה לַחֲצִי שַׁבָּת. לֵימָא מְסַיַּיע לֵיהּ: וְשָׁוִין שֶׁאִם נוֹלַד וּמוּמוֹ עִמּוֹ — שֶׁזֶּה מִן הַמּוּכָן. וְהָא בְּכוֹר מֵעִיקָּרָא הֲוָה חֲזִי אַגַּב אִמֵּיהּ, אִתְיְלִיד לֵיהּ — אִדְּחִי לֵיהּ, אַחְזְיֵיהּ לְחָכָם — אִשְׁתְּרִי לֵיהּ.

Some say that Rava said the opposite to Hillel: There is no prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat, that is to say, even if an item becomes disqualified for use on Shabbat, once it becomes fit again, it is no longer prohibited. The Gemara responds: Let us say that the previously cited baraita supports Rava: And Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon agree that if the animal was born with its blemish, it is considered to be among the animals prepared before the Festival for use on the Festival. But wasn’t this firstborn fit to be eaten at the outset on account of its mother; and then when it was born it became disqualified; and then later, when he showed it to a Sage, it once again became permitted to him? This indicates that for half of Shabbat there is no prohibition of muktze.

אָמַר אַבָּיֵי וְאִיתֵּימָא רַב סָפְרָא: כְּגוֹן דְּיָתְבִי דַּיָּינֵי הָתָם.

Abaye said, and some say it was Rav Safra who said: This proof is inconclusive, as the baraita may be referring to a case where judges were sitting there when the firstborn was born, and they immediately saw that it was blemished; therefore the animal never acquired the status of muktze at all.

תָּא שְׁמַע: הָיָה אוֹכֵל בַּעֲנָבִים, וְהוֹתִיר וְהֶעֱלָן לַגָּג לַעֲשׂוֹת מֵהֶן צִמּוּקִין, בִּתְאֵנִים, וְהוֹתִיר וְהֶעֱלָן לַגָּג לַעֲשׂוֹת מֵהֶן גְּרוֹגְרוֹת — לֹא יֹאכַל מֵהֶן עַד שֶׁיַּזְמִין מִבְּעוֹד יוֹם. וְכֵן אַתָּה מוֹצֵא בַּאֲפַרְסְקִין וּבַחֲבוּשִׁין וּבִשְׁאָר כׇּל מִינֵי פֵירוֹת.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a proof from a different baraita: If one was eating grapes and left some over and took them up to the roof to dry in order to make them into raisins, or if he was eating figs and left some over and took them up to the roof in order to make them into dried figs, he may not eat from them on Shabbat unless he designates them as food to be eaten while it is still day. Otherwise, they are prohibited as muktze. And you would find the same with regard to peaches, and quinces, and all other types of fruit that one left out to dry. It is prohibited to eat any of them on Shabbat due to the prohibition of muktze.

הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דַּחֲזוּ — לְמָה לֵיהּ הַזְמָנָה? אִי דְּלָא חֲזוּ — כִּי אַזְמֵין לְהוּ מַאי הָוֵי!

The Gemara proceeds to clarify this baraita: What are the circumstances? If they are fit to be eaten, as they have already dried, why does he require prior designation? Since he placed them there in order to eat them after they dried, they should be considered food that has been designated to be eaten. And if they are not fit to be eaten, as they are yet not dry, even if he designates them the day before, what of it? Of what use is such designation, seeing that the fruit is still unfit to be eaten?

וְכִי תֵּימָא, דְּלָא יָדַע אִי חֲזוּ אִי לָא חֲזוּ, וְהָאָמַר רַב כָּהֲנָא: מוּקְצֶה שֶׁיָּבַשׁ וְאֵין הַבְּעָלִים מַכִּירִין בּוֹ — מוּתָּר.

And if you say the baraita is referring to a case where he could not ascend to the roof to examine them, and therefore he did not know whether they were fit or unfit, so that his designation was conditional, there is a difficulty. As didn’t Rav Kahana say: If fruit had been set aside for drying, and it dried and became fit for eating before Shabbat, but the owner did not know about it before Shabbat but only on Shabbat, the fruit is permitted, since he removed it from his mind only for as long as it would be unfit for eating.

אֶלָּא לָאו, דִּחֲזוֹ וְאִדְּחוֹ, וַהֲדַר אִחֲזוֹ. וְאִי אָמְרַתְּ אֵין מוּקְצֶה, לְמָה לְהוּ הַזְמָנָה? אֶלָּא מַאי יֵשׁ מוּקְצֶה? כִּי אַזְמֵין לְהוּ מַאי הָוֵי!

Rather, is the baraita not referring to a case where the fruits were fit, and then became disqualified, and then once again became fit, and therefore they have the status of muktze? And if you say that there is no prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat, why do they require prior designation? The Gemara refutes this argument: Rather, what then do you say, that there is in fact a prohibition of muktze for half of Shabbat? In that case, if he designates them the day before, what of it? How does his designation permit that which is prohibited as muktze?

לָא צְרִיכָא: דְּאִחֲזוֹ וְלָא אִחֲזוֹ. דְּאִיכָּא אִינָשֵׁי דְּאָכְלִי, וְאִיכָּא אִינָשֵׁי דְּלָא אָכְלִי. אַזְמֵין — גַּלִּי דַּעְתֵּיהּ, לָא אַזְמֵין — לָא גַּלִּי דַּעְתֵּיהּ.

The Gemara answers: No, the baraita is necessary for a case where the fruits were fit but not completely fit, meaning that there are people who eat them in that state and there are other people who do not eat them. Therefore, if he designated them as food to be eaten, he has revealed his intention that he is included among those who do eat them; if he did not designate them as food, he has not revealed his intention. Therefore, no proof can be adduced from here.

אָמַר רַבִּי זֵירָא: תָּא שְׁמַע מִפּוֹלִין וַעֲדָשִׁים. דְּהָא פּוֹלִין וַעֲדָשִׁים מֵעִיקָּרָא חֲזוּ לָכוֹס, שְׁדִינְהוּ בִּקְדֵרָה — אִדְּחוֹ לְהוּ,

Rabbi Zeira said: Come and hear a resolution to the problem raised above from the halakha governing beans and lentils cooked on a Festival. As beans and lentils at the outset, at twilight, when they are still raw and uncooked, are fit to be chewed as they are and are therefore not in the category of muktze; then, when he casts them into the pot to cook them, they become disqualified because while they are being cooked they are fit neither to be chewed raw nor to be eaten cooked.

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