The people of Alexandria asked Rabbi Yehoshua ben Chanania twelve questions of four types. The braita brings all the questions. Two lepers who brought their sacrifices and one died after only one set was brought how does the other one ensure that he bring his sacrifices? Other questions are asked regarding contradictory verses. What can one do to become learned? Rich? To have male children?
Niddah 70
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Niddah 70
הִיא תּוֹעֵבָה וְאֵין בָּנֶיהָ תּוֹעֲבִין.
With regard to one who remarries his divorced wife, the Torah states: “Her former husband, who sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after she is defiled, for that is an abomination before the Lord; and you shall not cause the land to sin, which the Lord your God gives you for an inheritance” (Deuteronomy 24:4). By inference, she, the divorced wife, is an abomination, but her children are not abominations. In other words, if he transgressed the prohibition and remarried this woman, the daughters from that marriage are not disqualified from marrying priests.
שְׁנֵי מְצוֹרָעִין שֶׁנִּתְעָרְבוּ קׇרְבְּנוֹתֵיהֶן זֶה בָּזֶה, וְקָרַב קׇרְבָּנוֹ שֶׁל אֶחָד מֵהֶן, וּמֵת אֶחָד מֵהֶן — הַשֵּׁנִי מַה תְּהֵא עָלָיו?
The third question was as follows: Two wealthy people who were lepers came to purify themselves and each brought a sin offering, a guilt offering, and a burnt offering. Their offerings became intermingled with each other, and the offering of one of them was sacrificed, and subsequently one of them died. What shall be with the second individual, i.e., how can he complete his purification process? If the other one had not died, they could both bring the remaining offering with the stipulation that it should be sacrificed on behalf of whoever is the owner. But now that one is dead, the other person may not bring the remaining animal, as one may not sacrifice a sin offering for one who is dead. He may also not bring another animal instead, as the animal that was already sacrificed might have been his, and one may not bring a second sin offering.
אָמַר לָהֶן: כּוֹתֵב נְכָסָיו לַאֲחֵרִים, וְהָוֵי עָנִי, וּמֵבִיא חַטַּאת הָעוֹף הַבָּא עַל הַסָּפֵק.
Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: The solution is for him to write a contract giving all his possessions to others, whom he trusts to return them as a gift later, and he is then considered to be destitute. And as a poor leper, he brings a bird sin offering, which can be brought even in a case of uncertainty.
וְהָאִיכָּא אָשָׁם! אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: כְּשֶׁקָּרַב אֲשָׁמוֹ.
The Gemara challenges: But there is the guilt offering that a leper must bring, and this must be an animal not a bird, and may not be brought in a case of uncertainty. How can this leper bring his guilt offering? Shmuel says: Rabbi Yehoshua was referring specifically to a case where his guilt offering had already been sacrificed, before the animals became intermingled.
אָמַר רַב שֵׁשֶׁת: גַּבְרָא רַבָּה כִּשְׁמוּאֵל לֵימָא כִּי הַאי מִילְּתָא? כְּמַאן? אִי כְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה, דְּאָמַר: ״אָשָׁם קָבַעה״, וְכֵיוָן דְּקָבַעה לֵהּ אָשָׁם בַּעֲשִׁירוּת — לָא מָצֵי מַיְיתֵי חַטָּאת בְּדַלּוּת.
Rav Sheshet said: Is it possible that a great man like Shmuel would say a statement like this? In accordance with whose opinion does this solution apply? If it is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, who says that if the leper was wealthy when he sacrificed his guilt offering he has thereby fixed his manner of atonement, and must bring animals as his other two offerings, it is difficult: And once he fixed his guilt offering as an animal while he was wealthy, he may not bring a bird sin offering when he is destitute.
דִּתְנַן: מְצוֹרָע שֶׁהֵבִיא קׇרְבַּן עָנִי וְהֶעֱשִׁיר, אוֹ עָשִׁיר וְהֶעֱנִי — הַכֹּל הוֹלֵךְ אַחַר חַטָּאת, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן.
As we learned in a mishna (Nega’im 14:11): With regard to a leper who brought an offering of a destitute person and thereafter he became wealthy, or if he brought an offering of a wealthy person and thereafter he became destitute, everything follows after the sin offering; this is the statement of Rabbi Shimon. If he was wealthy when he brought the sin offering, he brings the burnt offering of the wealthy; if he was destitute at that time, he brings the burnt offering of the destitute.
וְרַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: הַכֹּל הוֹלֵךְ אַחַר אָשָׁם. רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר בֶּן יַעֲקֹב אוֹמֵר: הַכֹּל הוֹלֵךְ אַחַר צִפֳּורִים.
And Rabbi Yehuda says: Everything, i.e., the sin offering and the burnt offering, follows after his status at the time that his guilt offering was brought. Rabbi Eliezer ben Ya’akov says: Everything follows after the offering of the birds, brought seven days earlier, at the start of his purification process.
וְאִי כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, דְּאָמַר: חַטָּאת קָבְעָה, אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא קְרַב אָשָׁם — נַיְתֵי אַחֵר, דְּהָא שָׁמְעִינַן לֵיהּ לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן דְּאָמַר: לַיְיתֵי וְלִתְנֵי.
Rav Sheshet continues: And if Rabbi Yehoshua’s statement is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Shimon, who said that the sin offering fixed the status of the remaining offerings, it is difficult: Why did Shmuel state that the case is where his guilt offering had already been sacrificed? Even if the guilt offering had not been sacrificed before the animals became intermingled, let him bring another animal as his guilt offering, and stipulate that if the guilt offering that was already slaughtered was his, this animal should be a peace offering. As we have heard that Rabbi Shimon said: Let him bring another animal and stipulate with regard to it.
דְּתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן: לַמׇּחֳרָת מֵבִיא אֲשָׁמוֹ וְלוּגּוֹ עִמּוֹ, וּמַעֲמִידוֹ בְּשַׁעַר נִיקָנוֹר, וּמַתְנֶה עָלָיו וְאוֹמֵר: אִם מְצוֹרָע הוּא — הֲרֵי אֲשָׁמוֹ וְלוּגּוֹ עִמּוֹ, וְאִם לָאו — אָשָׁם זֶה יְהֵא שַׁלְמֵי נְדָבָה.
As it is taught in a baraita that Rabbi Shimon says, with regard to a leper of uncertain status who must bring a guilt offering and a log of oil for his purification: The following day, on the eighth day of his purification, he brings his guilt offering and his log of oil with it, and the priest stands him at the Gate of Nicanor, and the leper stipulates with regard to the offering and says: If this person, i.e., I, was a leper, this is his guilt offering and this is his log of oil with it. And if not, this animal that I brought for a guilt offering shall be a voluntary peace offering, as the two offerings are sacrificed in the same manner.
וְאוֹתוֹ אָשָׁם טָעוּן
And that guilt offering of uncertain status requires
שְׁחִיטָתוֹ בַּצָּפוֹן, וְטָעוּן מַתְּנַת בְּהוֹנוֹת, וּסְמִיכָה, וּנְסָכִים, וּתְנוּפָה, וְחָזֶה וָשׁוֹק, וְנֶאֱכָל לְזִכְרֵי כְהוּנָּה לְיוֹם וָלַיְלָה.
that its slaughter must be performed in the north of the Temple courtyard, as in the case of a guilt offering, and it requires placement of the blood on the right thumb and right big toe and right earlobe of the leper, as described in Leviticus 14:14, and it requires placing hands on the head of the animal, and the accompanying wine libations and waving of the breast and thigh, like a peace offering. And it is eaten by males of the priesthood for one day and the following night, like a guilt offering, rather than for two days, like a peace offering.
וְלֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ חֲכָמִים לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמֵּבִיא קָדָשִׁים לְבֵית הַפְּסוּל!
But the Rabbis did not concede to Rabbi Shimon, because they hold that he thereby brings sacrificial animals to a situation where the time that they may be eaten is restricted, thereby increasing the likelihood of disqualification, as it might be a peace offering, which may be eaten for two days and one night.
שְׁמוּאֵל סָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בַּחֲדָא, וּפְלִיג עֲלֵיהּ בַּחֲדָא.
The Gemara answers that Shmuel holds in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Shimon with regard to one halakha, i.e., that it is not the guilt offering that fixes whether the leper must bring the offerings of a wealthy person or a destitute person, but he disagrees with him with regard to one other halakha, as he does not permit such a stipulation in the case of a guilt offering.
שְׁלֹשָׁה דִּבְרֵי אַגָּדָה: כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי לֹא אֶחְפּוֹץ בְּמוֹת הַמֵּת״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי חָפֵץ ה׳ לַהֲמִיתָם״! כָּאן בְּעוֹשִׂין תְּשׁוּבָה, כָּאן בְּשֶׁאֵין עוֹשִׂין תְּשׁוּבָה.
The Gemara details the three matters of aggada that the sages of Alexandria asked Rabbi Yehoshua. One verse states: “For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dies, says the Lord God; but turn yourselves, and live” (Ezekiel 18:32). And one verse states, with regard to the sons of Eli the High Priest, who did not pay attention to the reproof of their father: “If one man sins against another, God shall judge him; but if a man sins against the Lord, who shall pray for him? But they did not listen to the voice of their father, because the Lord desired to kill them” (I Samuel 2:25). Rabbi Yehoshua replied to them: Here, the verse in Ezekiel is referring to a case where the sinners repent, whereas there, the verse in Samuel is speaking of a case where the sinners do not repent.
כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״כִּי לֹא יִשָּׂא פָנִים וְלֹא יִקַּח שׁוֹחַד״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״יִשָּׂא ה׳ פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ״! כָּאן קוֹדֶם גְּזַר דִּין, כָּאן לְאַחַר גְּזַר דִּין.
The sages of Alexandria also asked the following: One verse states: “For the Lord your God, He is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the awful, Who shows no favor nor takes graft” (Deuteronomy 10:17), and one verse states: “The Lord shall show favor to you and give you peace” (Numbers 6:26). How can this contradiction be resolved? Rabbi Yehoshua replied to them: Here, the verse in Numbers is dealing with the time before one’s sentence is issued, when God shows favor and forgives; there, the verse in Deuteronomy is referring to after the sentence has been issued, when He no longer forgives.
כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי בָחַר ה׳ בְּצִיּוֹן״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי עַל אַפִּי וְעַל חֲמָתִי הָיְתָה הָעִיר הַזֹּאת לְמִן הַיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר בָּנוּ אוֹתָהּ עַד הַיּוֹם הַזֶּה״! כָּאן קוֹדֶם שֶׁנָּשָׂא שְׁלֹמֹה אֶת בַּת פַּרְעֹה, כָּאן לְאַחַר שֶׁנָּשָׂא שְׁלֹמֹה אֶת בַּת פַּרְעֹה.
The sages of Alexandria further asked: One verse states: “For the Lord has chosen Zion; He has desired it for His dwelling place” (Psalms 132:13), and one verse states: “For this city has been to Me a provocation of My anger and of My fury from the day that they built it until this day, so that I should remove it from before My face” (Jeremiah 32:31). Rabbi Yehoshua replied to them: Here, the verse in Psalms is referring to the time before Solomon married Pharaoh’s daughter (see I Kings 3:1), whereas there, the verse in Jeremiah is speaking of the time after Solomon married Pharaoh’s daughter.
שְׁלֹשָׁה דִּבְרֵי בּוּרוּת: אִשְׁתּוֹ שֶׁל לוֹט, מַהוּ שֶׁתְּטַמֵּא? אָמַר לָהֶם: מֵת מְטַמֵּא, וְאֵין נְצִיב מֶלַח מְטַמֵּא.
The Gemara lists the three matters of ignorance that the sages of Alexandria asked Rabbi Yehoshua. What is the halakha with regard to the wife of Lot, who was turned into a pillar of salt as she fled from the city of Sodom (Genesis 19:26), in terms of whether she transmits ritual impurity as a corpse? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: A corpse transmits ritual impurity, but a pillar of salt, even if it was formerly a person, does not impart ritual impurity.
בֶּן שׁוּנַמִּית, מַהוּ שֶׁיְּטַמֵּא? אָמַר לָהֶן: מֵת מְטַמֵּא, וְאֵין חַי מְטַמֵּא.
The sages of Alexandria also asked Rabbi Yehoshua: What is the halakha with regard to the son of the Shunammite woman, who died and was brought to life by Elisha (II Kings 4:33–36), in terms of whether he transmits ritual impurity as a corpse? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: A corpse transmits ritual impurity, but a living person does not transmit ritual impurity, even if he had been dead temporarily.
מֵתִים לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, צְרִיכִין הַזָּאָה שְׁלִישִׁי וּשְׁבִיעִי אוֹ אֵין צְרִיכִין? אָמַר לָהֶן: לִכְשֶׁיִּחְיוּ נֶחְכַּם לָהֶן. אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי: לִכְשֶׁיָּבֹא מֹשֶׁה רַבֵּינוּ עִמָּהֶם.
The sages of Alexandria also asked Rabbi Yehoshua: With regard to the dead who will be resurrected in the future, will they require sprinkling with ashes of the red heifer on the third and seventh days, like one who is purified after coming into contact with a corpse, or will they not require that sprinkling? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: When they come to life, we will be clever for them and clarify the halakha. There are those who say that Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: When Moses our teacher comes with them, he will tell us the correct halakha.
שְׁלֹשָׁה דִּבְרֵי דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ, מָה יַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם וְיֶחְכַּם? אָמַר לָהֶן: יַרְבֶּה בִּישִׁיבָה, וִימַעֵט בִּסְחוֹרָה. אָמְרוּ: הַרְבֵּה עָשׂוּ כֵּן, וְלֹא הוֹעִיל לָהֶם! אֶלָּא יְבַקְּשׁוּ רַחֲמִים מִמִּי שֶׁהַחׇכְמָה שֶׁלּוֹ, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״כִּי ה׳ יִתֵּן חׇכְמָה מִפִּיו דַּעַת וּתְבוּנָה״.
The sages of Alexandria also asked Rabbi Yehoshua three matters of behavior: What should a person do to become wise? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: He should increase his time spent sitting in the study house and minimize his dealings in merchandise. The sages of Alexandria said to Rabbi Yehoshua: Many people have done so, and it did not help them to acquire wisdom. Rabbi Yehoshua responded: Rather, they should pray for mercy to receive wisdom from the One to Whom wisdom belongs, as it is stated: “For the Lord gives wisdom; out of His mouth comes knowledge and discernment” (Proverbs 2:6).
תָּנֵי רַבִּי חִיָּיא: מָשָׁל לְמֶלֶךְ בָּשָׂר וָדָם שֶׁעָשָׂה סְעוּדָה לַעֲבָדָיו, וּמְשַׁגֵּר לְאוֹהֲבָיו מִמַּה שֶּׁלְּפָנָיו.
With regard to the subject of wisdom, Rabbi Ḥiyya teaches a parable of a flesh-and-blood king who prepared a feast for his servants. The servants eat the food placed before them, but in addition he sends some of the food that is before him to those he loves. Similarly, God sends some of His wisdom to those He loves, as the verse states: “For the Lord gives wisdom.”
מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן? דְּהָא בְּלָא הָא לָא סַגִּיא.
The Gemara asks: Since the path to wisdom is through prayer, what is Rabbi Yehoshua teaching us when he says that one should increase his time spent sitting and studying? The Gemara answers that Rabbi Yehoshua is teaching that this, prayer, without that, sitting and learning, does not suffice.
מָה יַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם וְיִתְעַשֵּׁר? אָמַר לָהֶן: יַרְבֶּה בִּסְחוֹרָה, וְיִשָּׂא וְיִתֵּן בֶּאֱמוּנָה. אָמְרוּ לוֹ: הַרְבֵּה עָשׂוּ כֵּן, וְלֹא הוֹעִילוּ! אֶלָּא יְבַקֵּשׁ רַחֲמִים מִמִּי שֶׁהָעוֹשֶׁר שֶׁלּוֹ, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״לִי הַכֶּסֶף וְלִי הַזָּהָב״.
The sages of Alexandria asked: What should a person do to become wealthy? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: He should increase his time involved in merchandise and conduct his business faithfully. The sages of Alexandria said to Rabbi Yehoshua: Many people have done so, and it did not help them become rich. Rabbi Yehoshua replied: Rather, they should pray for mercy to receive wisdom from the One to Whom wealth belongs, as it is stated: “Mine is the silver, and Mine the gold, says the Lord of hosts” (Haggai 2:8).
מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן, דְּהָא בְּלָא הָא לָא סַגִּי.
The Gemara asks: Since the path to wealth is through prayer, what is Rabbi Yehoshua teaching us when he says that one should increase his time spent involved in merchandise and conduct his business faithfully? Once again, the Gemara answers: Rabbi Yehoshua is teaching that this, prayer, without that, being involved in honest business, does not suffice.
מָה יַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם וְיִהְיוּ לוֹ בָּנִים זְכָרִים? אָמַר לָהֶם: יִשָּׂא אִשָּׁה הַהוֹגֶנֶת לוֹ,
The sages of Alexandria further asked: What should a person do to have male children? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: He should marry a woman who is fit for him
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Yad Binyamin, Israel
I started learning at the beginning of the cycle after a friend persuaded me that it would be right up my alley. I was lucky enough to learn at Rabbanit Michelle’s house before it started on zoom and it was quickly part of my daily routine. I find it so important to see for myself where halachot were derived, where stories were told and to get more insight into how the Rabbis interacted.
Deborah Dickson
Ra’anana, Israel
I started learning Talmud with R’ Haramati in Yeshivah of Flatbush. But after a respite of 60 years, Rabbanit Michelle lit my fire – after attending the last three world siyumim in Miami Beach, Meadowlands and Boca Raton, and now that I’m retired, I decided – “I can do this!” It has been an incredible journey so far, and I look forward to learning Daf everyday – Mazal Tov to everyone!
Roslyn Jaffe
Florida, United States
I started learning Jan 2020 when I heard the new cycle was starting. I had tried during the last cycle and didn’t make it past a few weeks. Learning online from old men didn’t speak to my soul and I knew Talmud had to be a soul journey for me. Enter Hadran! Talmud from Rabbanit Michelle Farber from a woman’s perspective, a mother’s perspective and a modern perspective. Motivated to continue!
Keren Carter
Brentwood, California, United States
After being so inspired by the siyum shas two years ago, I began tentatively learning daf yomi, like Rabbanut Michelle kept saying – taking one daf at a time. I’m still taking it one daf at a time, one masechet at a time, but I’m loving it and am still so inspired by Rabbanit Michelle and the Hadran community, and yes – I am proud to be finishing Seder Mo’ed.
Caroline Graham-Ofstein
Bet Shemesh, Israel
After experiences over the years of asking to join gemara shiurim for men and either being refused by the maggid shiur or being the only women there, sometimes behind a mechitza, I found out about Hadran sometime during the tail end of Masechet Shabbat, I think. Life has been much better since then.
Madeline Cohen
London, United Kingdom
A beautiful world of Talmudic sages now fill my daily life with discussion and debate.
bringing alive our traditions and texts that has brought new meaning to my life.
I am a מגילת אסתר reader for women . the words in the Mishna of מסכת megillah 17a
הקורא את המגילה למפרע לא יצא were powerful to me.
I hope to have the zchut to complete the cycle for my 70th birthday.
Sheila Hauser
Jerusalem, Israel
I had no formal learning in Talmud until I began my studies in the Joint Program where in 1976 I was one of the few, if not the only, woman talmud major. It was superior training for law school and enabled me to approach my legal studies with a foundation . In 2018, I began daf yomi listening to Rabbanit MIchelle’s pod cast and my daily talmud studies are one of the highlights of my life.
Terri Krivosha
Minneapolis, United States
I decided to give daf yomi a try when I heard about the siyum hashas in 2020. Once the pandemic hit, the daily commitment gave my days some much-needed structure. There have been times when I’ve felt like quitting- especially when encountering very technical details in the text. But then I tell myself, “Look how much you’ve done. You can’t stop now!” So I keep going & my Koren bookshelf grows…
Miriam Eckstein-Koas
Huntington, United States
Years ago, I attended the local Siyum HaShas with my high school class. It was inspiring! Through that cycle and the next one, I studied masekhtot on my own and then did “daf yomi practice.” The amazing Hadran Siyum HaShas event firmed my resolve to “really do” Daf Yomi this time. It has become a family goal. We’ve supported each other through challenges, and now we’re at the Siyum of Seder Moed!
Elisheva Brauner
Jerusalem, Israel
Robin Zeiger
Tel Aviv, Israel
With Rabbanit Dr. Naomi Cohen in the Women’s Talmud class, over 30 years ago. It was a “known” class and it was accepted, because of who taught. Since then I have also studied with Avigail Gross-Gelman and Dr. Gabriel Hazut for about a year). Years ago, in a shiur in my shul, I did know about Persians doing 3 things with their clothes on. They opened the shiur to woman after that!
Sharon Mink
Haifa, Israel
When I began learning Daf Yomi at the beginning of the current cycle, I was preparing for an upcoming surgery and thought that learning the Daf would be something positive I could do each day during my recovery, even if I accomplished nothing else. I had no idea what a lifeline learning the Daf would turn out to be in so many ways.
Laura Shechter
Lexington, MA, United States
I began Daf Yomi with the last cycle. I was inspired by the Hadran Siyum in Yerushalayim to continue with this cycle. I have learned Daf Yomi with Rabanit Michelle in over 25 countries on 6 continents ( missing Australia)
Barbara Goldschlag
Silver Spring, MD, United States
I started learning Jan 2020 when I heard the new cycle was starting. I had tried during the last cycle and didn’t make it past a few weeks. Learning online from old men didn’t speak to my soul and I knew Talmud had to be a soul journey for me. Enter Hadran! Talmud from Rabbanit Michelle Farber from a woman’s perspective, a mother’s perspective and a modern perspective. Motivated to continue!
Keren Carter
Brentwood, California, United States
I started my Daf Yomi journey at the beginning of the COVID19 pandemic.
Karena Perry
Los Angeles, United States
Niddah 70
הִיא תּוֹעֵבָה וְאֵין בָּנֶיהָ תּוֹעֲבִין.
With regard to one who remarries his divorced wife, the Torah states: “Her former husband, who sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after she is defiled, for that is an abomination before the Lord; and you shall not cause the land to sin, which the Lord your God gives you for an inheritance” (Deuteronomy 24:4). By inference, she, the divorced wife, is an abomination, but her children are not abominations. In other words, if he transgressed the prohibition and remarried this woman, the daughters from that marriage are not disqualified from marrying priests.
שְׁנֵי מְצוֹרָעִין שֶׁנִּתְעָרְבוּ קׇרְבְּנוֹתֵיהֶן זֶה בָּזֶה, וְקָרַב קׇרְבָּנוֹ שֶׁל אֶחָד מֵהֶן, וּמֵת אֶחָד מֵהֶן — הַשֵּׁנִי מַה תְּהֵא עָלָיו?
The third question was as follows: Two wealthy people who were lepers came to purify themselves and each brought a sin offering, a guilt offering, and a burnt offering. Their offerings became intermingled with each other, and the offering of one of them was sacrificed, and subsequently one of them died. What shall be with the second individual, i.e., how can he complete his purification process? If the other one had not died, they could both bring the remaining offering with the stipulation that it should be sacrificed on behalf of whoever is the owner. But now that one is dead, the other person may not bring the remaining animal, as one may not sacrifice a sin offering for one who is dead. He may also not bring another animal instead, as the animal that was already sacrificed might have been his, and one may not bring a second sin offering.
אָמַר לָהֶן: כּוֹתֵב נְכָסָיו לַאֲחֵרִים, וְהָוֵי עָנִי, וּמֵבִיא חַטַּאת הָעוֹף הַבָּא עַל הַסָּפֵק.
Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: The solution is for him to write a contract giving all his possessions to others, whom he trusts to return them as a gift later, and he is then considered to be destitute. And as a poor leper, he brings a bird sin offering, which can be brought even in a case of uncertainty.
וְהָאִיכָּא אָשָׁם! אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: כְּשֶׁקָּרַב אֲשָׁמוֹ.
The Gemara challenges: But there is the guilt offering that a leper must bring, and this must be an animal not a bird, and may not be brought in a case of uncertainty. How can this leper bring his guilt offering? Shmuel says: Rabbi Yehoshua was referring specifically to a case where his guilt offering had already been sacrificed, before the animals became intermingled.
אָמַר רַב שֵׁשֶׁת: גַּבְרָא רַבָּה כִּשְׁמוּאֵל לֵימָא כִּי הַאי מִילְּתָא? כְּמַאן? אִי כְּרַבִּי יְהוּדָה, דְּאָמַר: ״אָשָׁם קָבַעה״, וְכֵיוָן דְּקָבַעה לֵהּ אָשָׁם בַּעֲשִׁירוּת — לָא מָצֵי מַיְיתֵי חַטָּאת בְּדַלּוּת.
Rav Sheshet said: Is it possible that a great man like Shmuel would say a statement like this? In accordance with whose opinion does this solution apply? If it is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, who says that if the leper was wealthy when he sacrificed his guilt offering he has thereby fixed his manner of atonement, and must bring animals as his other two offerings, it is difficult: And once he fixed his guilt offering as an animal while he was wealthy, he may not bring a bird sin offering when he is destitute.
דִּתְנַן: מְצוֹרָע שֶׁהֵבִיא קׇרְבַּן עָנִי וְהֶעֱשִׁיר, אוֹ עָשִׁיר וְהֶעֱנִי — הַכֹּל הוֹלֵךְ אַחַר חַטָּאת, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן.
As we learned in a mishna (Nega’im 14:11): With regard to a leper who brought an offering of a destitute person and thereafter he became wealthy, or if he brought an offering of a wealthy person and thereafter he became destitute, everything follows after the sin offering; this is the statement of Rabbi Shimon. If he was wealthy when he brought the sin offering, he brings the burnt offering of the wealthy; if he was destitute at that time, he brings the burnt offering of the destitute.
וְרַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: הַכֹּל הוֹלֵךְ אַחַר אָשָׁם. רַבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר בֶּן יַעֲקֹב אוֹמֵר: הַכֹּל הוֹלֵךְ אַחַר צִפֳּורִים.
And Rabbi Yehuda says: Everything, i.e., the sin offering and the burnt offering, follows after his status at the time that his guilt offering was brought. Rabbi Eliezer ben Ya’akov says: Everything follows after the offering of the birds, brought seven days earlier, at the start of his purification process.
וְאִי כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, דְּאָמַר: חַטָּאת קָבְעָה, אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא קְרַב אָשָׁם — נַיְתֵי אַחֵר, דְּהָא שָׁמְעִינַן לֵיהּ לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן דְּאָמַר: לַיְיתֵי וְלִתְנֵי.
Rav Sheshet continues: And if Rabbi Yehoshua’s statement is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Shimon, who said that the sin offering fixed the status of the remaining offerings, it is difficult: Why did Shmuel state that the case is where his guilt offering had already been sacrificed? Even if the guilt offering had not been sacrificed before the animals became intermingled, let him bring another animal as his guilt offering, and stipulate that if the guilt offering that was already slaughtered was his, this animal should be a peace offering. As we have heard that Rabbi Shimon said: Let him bring another animal and stipulate with regard to it.
דְּתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן: לַמׇּחֳרָת מֵבִיא אֲשָׁמוֹ וְלוּגּוֹ עִמּוֹ, וּמַעֲמִידוֹ בְּשַׁעַר נִיקָנוֹר, וּמַתְנֶה עָלָיו וְאוֹמֵר: אִם מְצוֹרָע הוּא — הֲרֵי אֲשָׁמוֹ וְלוּגּוֹ עִמּוֹ, וְאִם לָאו — אָשָׁם זֶה יְהֵא שַׁלְמֵי נְדָבָה.
As it is taught in a baraita that Rabbi Shimon says, with regard to a leper of uncertain status who must bring a guilt offering and a log of oil for his purification: The following day, on the eighth day of his purification, he brings his guilt offering and his log of oil with it, and the priest stands him at the Gate of Nicanor, and the leper stipulates with regard to the offering and says: If this person, i.e., I, was a leper, this is his guilt offering and this is his log of oil with it. And if not, this animal that I brought for a guilt offering shall be a voluntary peace offering, as the two offerings are sacrificed in the same manner.
וְאוֹתוֹ אָשָׁם טָעוּן
And that guilt offering of uncertain status requires
שְׁחִיטָתוֹ בַּצָּפוֹן, וְטָעוּן מַתְּנַת בְּהוֹנוֹת, וּסְמִיכָה, וּנְסָכִים, וּתְנוּפָה, וְחָזֶה וָשׁוֹק, וְנֶאֱכָל לְזִכְרֵי כְהוּנָּה לְיוֹם וָלַיְלָה.
that its slaughter must be performed in the north of the Temple courtyard, as in the case of a guilt offering, and it requires placement of the blood on the right thumb and right big toe and right earlobe of the leper, as described in Leviticus 14:14, and it requires placing hands on the head of the animal, and the accompanying wine libations and waving of the breast and thigh, like a peace offering. And it is eaten by males of the priesthood for one day and the following night, like a guilt offering, rather than for two days, like a peace offering.
וְלֹא הוֹדוּ לוֹ חֲכָמִים לְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, מִפְּנֵי שֶׁמֵּבִיא קָדָשִׁים לְבֵית הַפְּסוּל!
But the Rabbis did not concede to Rabbi Shimon, because they hold that he thereby brings sacrificial animals to a situation where the time that they may be eaten is restricted, thereby increasing the likelihood of disqualification, as it might be a peace offering, which may be eaten for two days and one night.
שְׁמוּאֵל סָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בַּחֲדָא, וּפְלִיג עֲלֵיהּ בַּחֲדָא.
The Gemara answers that Shmuel holds in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Shimon with regard to one halakha, i.e., that it is not the guilt offering that fixes whether the leper must bring the offerings of a wealthy person or a destitute person, but he disagrees with him with regard to one other halakha, as he does not permit such a stipulation in the case of a guilt offering.
שְׁלֹשָׁה דִּבְרֵי אַגָּדָה: כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי לֹא אֶחְפּוֹץ בְּמוֹת הַמֵּת״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי חָפֵץ ה׳ לַהֲמִיתָם״! כָּאן בְּעוֹשִׂין תְּשׁוּבָה, כָּאן בְּשֶׁאֵין עוֹשִׂין תְּשׁוּבָה.
The Gemara details the three matters of aggada that the sages of Alexandria asked Rabbi Yehoshua. One verse states: “For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dies, says the Lord God; but turn yourselves, and live” (Ezekiel 18:32). And one verse states, with regard to the sons of Eli the High Priest, who did not pay attention to the reproof of their father: “If one man sins against another, God shall judge him; but if a man sins against the Lord, who shall pray for him? But they did not listen to the voice of their father, because the Lord desired to kill them” (I Samuel 2:25). Rabbi Yehoshua replied to them: Here, the verse in Ezekiel is referring to a case where the sinners repent, whereas there, the verse in Samuel is speaking of a case where the sinners do not repent.
כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״כִּי לֹא יִשָּׂא פָנִים וְלֹא יִקַּח שׁוֹחַד״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר: ״יִשָּׂא ה׳ פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ״! כָּאן קוֹדֶם גְּזַר דִּין, כָּאן לְאַחַר גְּזַר דִּין.
The sages of Alexandria also asked the following: One verse states: “For the Lord your God, He is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the awful, Who shows no favor nor takes graft” (Deuteronomy 10:17), and one verse states: “The Lord shall show favor to you and give you peace” (Numbers 6:26). How can this contradiction be resolved? Rabbi Yehoshua replied to them: Here, the verse in Numbers is dealing with the time before one’s sentence is issued, when God shows favor and forgives; there, the verse in Deuteronomy is referring to after the sentence has been issued, when He no longer forgives.
כָּתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי בָחַר ה׳ בְּצִיּוֹן״, וְכָתוּב אֶחָד אוֹמֵר ״כִּי עַל אַפִּי וְעַל חֲמָתִי הָיְתָה הָעִיר הַזֹּאת לְמִן הַיּוֹם אֲשֶׁר בָּנוּ אוֹתָהּ עַד הַיּוֹם הַזֶּה״! כָּאן קוֹדֶם שֶׁנָּשָׂא שְׁלֹמֹה אֶת בַּת פַּרְעֹה, כָּאן לְאַחַר שֶׁנָּשָׂא שְׁלֹמֹה אֶת בַּת פַּרְעֹה.
The sages of Alexandria further asked: One verse states: “For the Lord has chosen Zion; He has desired it for His dwelling place” (Psalms 132:13), and one verse states: “For this city has been to Me a provocation of My anger and of My fury from the day that they built it until this day, so that I should remove it from before My face” (Jeremiah 32:31). Rabbi Yehoshua replied to them: Here, the verse in Psalms is referring to the time before Solomon married Pharaoh’s daughter (see I Kings 3:1), whereas there, the verse in Jeremiah is speaking of the time after Solomon married Pharaoh’s daughter.
שְׁלֹשָׁה דִּבְרֵי בּוּרוּת: אִשְׁתּוֹ שֶׁל לוֹט, מַהוּ שֶׁתְּטַמֵּא? אָמַר לָהֶם: מֵת מְטַמֵּא, וְאֵין נְצִיב מֶלַח מְטַמֵּא.
The Gemara lists the three matters of ignorance that the sages of Alexandria asked Rabbi Yehoshua. What is the halakha with regard to the wife of Lot, who was turned into a pillar of salt as she fled from the city of Sodom (Genesis 19:26), in terms of whether she transmits ritual impurity as a corpse? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: A corpse transmits ritual impurity, but a pillar of salt, even if it was formerly a person, does not impart ritual impurity.
בֶּן שׁוּנַמִּית, מַהוּ שֶׁיְּטַמֵּא? אָמַר לָהֶן: מֵת מְטַמֵּא, וְאֵין חַי מְטַמֵּא.
The sages of Alexandria also asked Rabbi Yehoshua: What is the halakha with regard to the son of the Shunammite woman, who died and was brought to life by Elisha (II Kings 4:33–36), in terms of whether he transmits ritual impurity as a corpse? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: A corpse transmits ritual impurity, but a living person does not transmit ritual impurity, even if he had been dead temporarily.
מֵתִים לֶעָתִיד לָבֹא, צְרִיכִין הַזָּאָה שְׁלִישִׁי וּשְׁבִיעִי אוֹ אֵין צְרִיכִין? אָמַר לָהֶן: לִכְשֶׁיִּחְיוּ נֶחְכַּם לָהֶן. אִיכָּא דְאָמְרִי: לִכְשֶׁיָּבֹא מֹשֶׁה רַבֵּינוּ עִמָּהֶם.
The sages of Alexandria also asked Rabbi Yehoshua: With regard to the dead who will be resurrected in the future, will they require sprinkling with ashes of the red heifer on the third and seventh days, like one who is purified after coming into contact with a corpse, or will they not require that sprinkling? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: When they come to life, we will be clever for them and clarify the halakha. There are those who say that Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: When Moses our teacher comes with them, he will tell us the correct halakha.
שְׁלֹשָׁה דִּבְרֵי דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ, מָה יַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם וְיֶחְכַּם? אָמַר לָהֶן: יַרְבֶּה בִּישִׁיבָה, וִימַעֵט בִּסְחוֹרָה. אָמְרוּ: הַרְבֵּה עָשׂוּ כֵּן, וְלֹא הוֹעִיל לָהֶם! אֶלָּא יְבַקְּשׁוּ רַחֲמִים מִמִּי שֶׁהַחׇכְמָה שֶׁלּוֹ, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״כִּי ה׳ יִתֵּן חׇכְמָה מִפִּיו דַּעַת וּתְבוּנָה״.
The sages of Alexandria also asked Rabbi Yehoshua three matters of behavior: What should a person do to become wise? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: He should increase his time spent sitting in the study house and minimize his dealings in merchandise. The sages of Alexandria said to Rabbi Yehoshua: Many people have done so, and it did not help them to acquire wisdom. Rabbi Yehoshua responded: Rather, they should pray for mercy to receive wisdom from the One to Whom wisdom belongs, as it is stated: “For the Lord gives wisdom; out of His mouth comes knowledge and discernment” (Proverbs 2:6).
תָּנֵי רַבִּי חִיָּיא: מָשָׁל לְמֶלֶךְ בָּשָׂר וָדָם שֶׁעָשָׂה סְעוּדָה לַעֲבָדָיו, וּמְשַׁגֵּר לְאוֹהֲבָיו מִמַּה שֶּׁלְּפָנָיו.
With regard to the subject of wisdom, Rabbi Ḥiyya teaches a parable of a flesh-and-blood king who prepared a feast for his servants. The servants eat the food placed before them, but in addition he sends some of the food that is before him to those he loves. Similarly, God sends some of His wisdom to those He loves, as the verse states: “For the Lord gives wisdom.”
מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן? דְּהָא בְּלָא הָא לָא סַגִּיא.
The Gemara asks: Since the path to wisdom is through prayer, what is Rabbi Yehoshua teaching us when he says that one should increase his time spent sitting and studying? The Gemara answers that Rabbi Yehoshua is teaching that this, prayer, without that, sitting and learning, does not suffice.
מָה יַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם וְיִתְעַשֵּׁר? אָמַר לָהֶן: יַרְבֶּה בִּסְחוֹרָה, וְיִשָּׂא וְיִתֵּן בֶּאֱמוּנָה. אָמְרוּ לוֹ: הַרְבֵּה עָשׂוּ כֵּן, וְלֹא הוֹעִילוּ! אֶלָּא יְבַקֵּשׁ רַחֲמִים מִמִּי שֶׁהָעוֹשֶׁר שֶׁלּוֹ, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״לִי הַכֶּסֶף וְלִי הַזָּהָב״.
The sages of Alexandria asked: What should a person do to become wealthy? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: He should increase his time involved in merchandise and conduct his business faithfully. The sages of Alexandria said to Rabbi Yehoshua: Many people have done so, and it did not help them become rich. Rabbi Yehoshua replied: Rather, they should pray for mercy to receive wisdom from the One to Whom wealth belongs, as it is stated: “Mine is the silver, and Mine the gold, says the Lord of hosts” (Haggai 2:8).
מַאי קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן, דְּהָא בְּלָא הָא לָא סַגִּי.
The Gemara asks: Since the path to wealth is through prayer, what is Rabbi Yehoshua teaching us when he says that one should increase his time spent involved in merchandise and conduct his business faithfully? Once again, the Gemara answers: Rabbi Yehoshua is teaching that this, prayer, without that, being involved in honest business, does not suffice.
מָה יַעֲשֶׂה אָדָם וְיִהְיוּ לוֹ בָּנִים זְכָרִים? אָמַר לָהֶם: יִשָּׂא אִשָּׁה הַהוֹגֶנֶת לוֹ,
The sages of Alexandria further asked: What should a person do to have male children? Rabbi Yehoshua said to them: He should marry a woman who is fit for him
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