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מובאים מקורות תנאיים נוספים כדי להוכיח את דעתו של רב הונא שאם החלקים הפגומים המעורבים בתוצרת הם מעבר לאחוז המותר, הקונה יכול לדרוש פיצוי על הכמות כולה. אולם, כל השוואה נדחית והגמרא מסבירה מדוע כל מקרה שונה מהמקרה אליו התייחס רב הונא.

המשנה מביאה מקרה של אדם שמכר יין ממרתף. מהו בדיוק המקרה ובאיזו לשון השתמשו לגבי התחייבות המוכר לספק את היין – האם היה זה "מרתף של יין”, "מרתף זה של יין” או "מרתף זה”? מברייתא המפרטת את הדין בכל אחת משלוש האפשרויות הללו, נראה כי המשנה אינה יכולה להתייחס לאף אחת מהאפשרויות. הגמרא מציעה שתי תשובות שונות, השנייה מבוססת על גרסה אחרת של הברייתא שהביא רב זביד. תשובות אלו נדונות ומפורשות מחדש כדי להתאים למשנה ואחת לשנייה.

איזו ברכה מברכים על יין שנמכר בחנויות, כלומר יין שהחל להפוך לחומץ – יש אומרים "בורא פרי הגפן” ויש אומרים "שהכל”.

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הָתָם, ״הֵן חָסֵר הֵן יָתֵיר״ אֲמַר לֵיהּ, מִיהוּ רְבִיעַ לָא חֲשִׁיב; יָתֵר מֵרְבִיעַ – חֲשִׁיב,

There, in the case of the sale of land, the reason the buyer may keep the extra land when it is less than the acceptable limit is that the seller said to him: I am selling you this piece of land whether it is slightly less or slightly more than a beit kor, i.e., he agrees to accept a small deviation from the stated area. But while an extra quarterkav area per beit se’a is not significant, and therefore the seller is willing to forgo it, more than a quarterkav area per beit se’a is significant, and the seller is not willing to forgo any of it. Consequently, all of the extra land must be returned. By contrast, in the case of Rav Huna’s ruling, the buyer is aware that it is normal to have a certain proportion of impurities mixed in and accepts this possibility from the outset. Accordingly, even if the proportion of impurities is greater than the acceptable limit, it might be sufficient if the seller takes back only the quantity of impurities above the acceptable limit.

דְּכֵיוָן דַּחֲזֵי לֵיהּ לְאִיצְטְרוֹפֵי בְּתִשְׁעַת קַבִּין, הָוְיָא לַהּ אַרְעָא חֲשִׁיבְתָּא בְּאַפֵּי נַפְשָׁא; וְהָדְרָא.

The Gemara explains why more than an area required to sow a quarter-kav of seed per beit se’a of land is significant: The reason is that since all those extra areas of land are fit to combine together to form an area in which one could sow nine kav of seed, the extra land is a significant plot of land in its own right, and therefore it must all be returned. The land that was sold was stated to be a beit kor, which is thirty beit se’a. If the area of the extra land was of a proportion somewhat more than an area required to sow a quarter-kav of seed per beit se’a of land, then thirty such areas would collectively be about equal to an area required to sow nine kav.

תָּא שְׁמַע: הָאוֹנָאָה; פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁתוּת – נִקְנֶה מִקָּח, יוֹתֵר מִשְּׁתוּת – בָּטֵל מִקָּח. שְׁתוּת – קָנָה, וּמַחְזִיר אוֹנָאָה.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a support for Rav Huna’s ruling from a baraita: The halakha of price exploitation is that if the disparity is less than one-sixth of the value of the merchandise, the merchandise is acquired immediately and the sum of the exploitation need not be returned. If the disparity is greater than one-sixth, then the transaction is nullified. If the disparity is precisely one-sixth, the buyer has acquired the merchandise, and the one who benefited from the exploitation returns the entire sum of the exploitation.

אַמַּאי? לַיהְדַּר עַד פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁתוּת! שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ, כׇּל הֵיכִי דְּבָעֵי לְאַהְדּוֹרֵי – כּוּלַּהּ מַהְדַּר!

The Gemara explains the proof: Why, in the case where the disparity is precisely one-sixth, is the entire sum of the exploitation returned? Instead, let him return only a small amount of the exploitation until the difference is less than one-sixth. The Gemara concludes: Learn from the fact that he must return the entire sum that when one is required to return part of a sale because of a discrepancy that is beyond the acceptable limit of deviation, one is required to return the entire discrepancy and not just the amount that is beyond the acceptable limit. This supports Rav Huna’s ruling.

הָכִי הַשְׁתָּא?! הָתָם, מֵעִיקָּרָא שָׁוֶה בְּשָׁוֶה אֲמַר לֵיהּ, מִיהוּ, פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁתוּת לָא יְדִיעָה בְּמָנֶה, וּמָחֵיל אִינִישׁ; שְׁתוּת – יְדִיעָה, וְלָא מָחֵיל אִינִישׁ, יָתֵר מִשְּׁתוּת – מִקָּח טָעוּת הוּא, וּבָטֵל מִקָּח.

The Gemara rejects this: How can these cases be compared? There, in the case of exploitation, the seller initially said to the buyer that he would sell the merchandise for a sum equal to its value. Any price difference should be unacceptable. But a disparity of less than one-sixth is not recognizable in a sale worth one hundred dinars, and a person will forgo it. By contrast, a disparity of one-sixth is considered significant, and a person will not forgo it. Consequently, the entire sum of the exploitation must be returned. If the disparity is greater than one-sixth, it is a mistaken transaction and the transaction is nullified. By contrast, in the case of Rav Huna’s ruling, the buyer is aware that it is normal to have a certain proportion of impurities mixed in and accepted that possibility from the outset. Accordingly, even if the proportion of impurities was greater than the acceptable limit, it might be sufficient if the seller takes back only the quantity of impurities above the acceptable limit.

תָּא שְׁמַע: הַמְקַבֵּל שָׂדֶה מֵחֲבֵרוֹ לִיטַּע – הֲרֵי זֶה מְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר בּוֹרִיּוֹת לְמֵאָה. יוֹתֵר מִכָּאן – מְגַלְגְּלִין עָלָיו אֶת הַכֹּל.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a support for Rav Huna’s ruling from a baraita: When one receives a field from another under a contract to plant trees in it, then this field owner accepts upon himself that there may be ten deficient trees per every hundred trees planted, as he is aware that not every tree planted will necessarily flourish. If the number of deficient trees is more than this, the court imposes upon him the responsibility to replace all of those trees, and not only the number of trees above the acceptable limit. This supports Rav Huna’s ruling.

אָמַר רַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: כׇּל יָתֵר מִכָּאן, כְּבָא לִיטַּע מִתְּחִלָּה דָּמֵי.

Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, said: There is no proof from this case, because any time there are more than this number of deficient trees, the overall area that contains the deficient trees is of a size equivalent to a whole field. Therefore, the contractor is comparable to one who comes to plant a whole field from the outset, who has not fulfilled his remit if he plants only a few trees; rather, he must plant the entire area. But in the case of Rav Huna’s ruling, the impurities never constitute an independent unit; consequently, it might be sufficient if the seller takes back only the quantity of impurities that is above the acceptable limit.

מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן וְכוּ׳. הֵיכִי דָּמֵי? אִי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ סְתָם – קַשְׁיָא; אִי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ – קַשְׁיָא.

§ The mishna teaches: When purchasing a cellar containing barrels of wine, one accepts upon himself that up to ten barrels of souring wine may be present in each hundred barrels purchased. The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of the sale? If one said to the buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, without specification of which cellar he meant, it is difficult, as the Gemara will soon explain. And if he said to him: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, it is difficult.

אִי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה״ – קַשְׁיָא, דְּתַנְיָא: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – אֲפִילּוּ כּוּלּוֹ חוֹמֶץ, הִגִּיעוֹ!

The Gemara elaborates: If he said to him: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, it is difficult, as it is taught in a baraita: If one said to a buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality, i.e., the buyer does not have to accept any quantity of souring wine. If he said: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, then he may give him the wine that is in his possession, even if it is of the quality that is sold in the shops, i.e., it is beginning to sour. If he said: I am selling to you this particular cellar, without mentioning the word: Wine, then even if everything he gives him is wine that had turned into vinegar, it has come to the buyer and the sale is valid. The mishna’s ruling that the buyer must accept that up to ten percent of the wine might be souring does not accord with any of the rulings of the baraita.

לְעוֹלָם דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ – סְתָם, וְתָנֵי בְּרֵישָׁא דְבָרַיְיתָא: וּמְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר קוֹסְסוֹת לְמֵאָה.

The Gemara answers: Actually, the mishna concerns a case when he said to the buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, without specification of which cellar he was selling. And emend the baraita and teach the following qualification in the first clause of the baraita: And the buyer accepts upon himself that up to ten barrels of souring wine may be present in each hundred barrels purchased.

וּבִסְתָם מִי מְקַבֵּל?! וְהָא תָּאנֵי רַבִּי חִיָּיא: הַמּוֹכֵר חָבִית יַיִן לַחֲבֵרוֹ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה! שָׁאנֵי חָבִית, דְּכוּלָּא חַד חַמְרָא הוּא.

The Gemara challenges this addition: But if he sold the buyer a wine cellar without specification of which one he was selling, does the buyer accept upon himself any souring wine at all? Didn’t Rabbi Ḥiyya teach: One who sells a barrel of wine to another must give him wine that is all of good quality? The Gemara answers: A barrel is different, because the wine inside is all one body of wine of the same quality.

וְהָא תָּנֵי רַב זְבִיד דְּבֵי רַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וּמְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר קוֹסְסוֹת לְמֵאָה,

The Gemara once again challenges the addition: But didn’t Rav Zevid teach a baraita of the school of Rabbi Oshaya: If one says to a buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality? Similarly, if he said: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality, but the buyer accepts upon himself ten souring barrels per hundred barrels.

וְזֶהוּ אוֹצָר שֶׁשָּׁנוּ חֲכָמִים בְּמִשְׁנָתֵינוּ!

Rav Zevid concludes: And this is the case of the storeroom, i.e., the cellar, that the Sages taught in the mishna. It is clear from this baraita both that it contradicts the suggested addition to the previous baraita, and that the mishna concerns a case where one specified which wine cellar he was selling.

אֶלָּא מַתְנִיתִין נָמֵי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ ״זֶה״.

Rather, as indicated by the baraita, the mishna also concerns a case where one says to the buyer: I am selling you this particular cellar, and because he specified a particular cellar the buyer accepts upon himself the possibility that up to ten barrels per hundred might be sour.

קַשְׁיָא ״זֶה״ אַ״זֶּה״!

Having retracted the addition to the first baraita, the Gemara asks: If so, it is difficult to reconcile the first baraita, which rules that if the seller specified that he was selling this cellar, he must provide wine that is all of good quality, with the second baraita, that of Rav Zevid, which rules with regard to the same case, in which the seller specified he was selling this cellar, that the buyer accepts that up to ten barrels per hundred may contain souring wine.

לָא קַשְׁיָא; הָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, הָא דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה. דְּרַב זְבִיד – דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, בָּרַיְיתָא – דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה.

The Gemara answers: This is not difficult. This baraita is referring to a case where the buyer said to him that he needs the wine for cooking, and therefore he requires good-quality wine, whereas that baraita is referring to a case where the buyer did not say to him that he needs the wine for cooking. The Gemara elaborates: The second baraita, taught by Rav Zevid, is referring to a case where the buyer said that he needs the wine for cooking, whereas the first baraita is referring to a case where the buyer did not say to him that he requires it for cooking.

הִלְכָּךְ, ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְאָמַר לוֹ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וּמְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר קוֹסְסוֹת לְמֵאָה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת.

The Gemara concludes: Therefore, the halakha is that if one said that he is selling: A wine cellar, and the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking, then the seller is obligated to give him wine that is all of good quality. If one said that he is selling: This particular wine cellar, and the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking, then the seller is obligated to give him wine that is all of good quality, but the buyer accepts upon himself ten barrels of souring wine in each hundred barrels purchased. If one said that he is selling: This particular wine cellar, and the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, then the seller may give to him the wine that is in his possession, even if it is of a quality that is sold in the shops, i.e., it is beginning to sour.

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, מַאי? פְּלִיגִי בַּהּ רַב אַחָא וְרָבִינָא; חַד אָמַר: מְקַבֵּל, וְחַד אָמַר: לָא מְקַבֵּל.

A dilemma was raised before the Sages: If one said that he is selling: A wine cellar, and the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, what is the halakha? Rav Aḥa and Ravina disagree about this. One says: The buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred, and the other one says: The buyer need not accept any barrels of souring wine.

מַאן דְּאָמַר מְקַבֵּל – דָּיֵיק מִדְּרַב זְבִיד, דְּקָתָנֵי: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וְאוֹקִימְנָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה; טַעְמָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, הָא לָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – מְקַבֵּל.

The Gemara explains their reasoning. The one who says that the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred infers this through a precise reading of the baraita of Rav Zevid, as it teaches: If one says: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality. And we interpreted this baraita as referring to a case where the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking. The Gemara explains the inference: The only reason that he must provide him with wine that is all of good quality is that the buyer said to him that he needed it for cooking. By inference, where the buyer does not say to him: I need it for cooking, the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred.

וּמַאן דְּאָמַר לָא מְקַבֵּל – דָּיֵיק מִבָּרַיְיתָא, דְּקָתָנֵי: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וְאוֹקֵימְנָא דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה.

And the one who says that the buyer need not accept any barrels of souring wine infers this through a precise reading of the first baraita, as it teaches: If one says: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality. And we interpreted this baraita as referring to a case where he did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, and even so, the buyer need not accept any barrels of souring wine.

וּלְמַאן דְּדָיֵיק מִדְּרַב זְבִיד, קַשְׁיָא בָּרַיְיתָא! חַסּוֹרֵי מְחַסְּרָא, וְהָכִי קָתָנֵי: בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים – דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה; הָא לָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – מְקַבֵּל. וּ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת.

The Gemara asks: But then, according to the one who infers his opinion through a precise reading of the baraita of Rav Zevid, the first baraita poses a difficulty. The Gemara answers that according to his opinion, the baraita is incomplete and this is what it is teaching: If one says: I am selling to you a cellar of wine, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality. In what case is this statement said? It is said in a case where the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking. By inference, where the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred. And if one said that he is selling: This particular wine cellar, and the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, then one may give to him the wine that is in his possession, even if it is of a quality that is sold in the shops, i.e., it is beginning to sour.

וּלְמַאן דְּדָיֵיק מִבָּרַיְיתָא, קַשְׁיָא דְּרַב זְבִיד – דְּאוֹקֵימְנָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, הָא לָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – מְקַבֵּל!

The Gemara asks: And according to the one who infers his opinion through a precise reading of the first baraita, the baraita of Rav Zevid poses a difficulty, as we interpreted it as referring to a case where the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking. And this opinion inferred that if the buyer did not say to him: I need it for cooking, then the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred.

הוּא הַדִּין דְּאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – לָא מְקַבֵּל, וְהַאי דְּאוֹקֵימְנָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, מִשּׁוּם דְּקַשְׁיָא ״זֶה״ אַ״זֶּה״.

The Gemara answers: The same is true according to both baraitot, that even where the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, the buyer need not accept ten barrels of souring wine. And there is no proof from the fact that we interpreted the baraita as referring to a case where he said to him: I need it for cooking, since we did so only due to the difficulty of the contradiction between the ruling of the first baraita in the case where the seller specified that he was selling this cellar and the ruling of the baraita of Rav Zevid in the same case where the seller specified he was selling this cellar. Due to that difficulty, the entire baraita was interpreted as referring to a case where the buyer said: I need the wine for cooking, despite the fact that in the case where he did not mention a specific cellar it makes no difference whether or not he said so.

אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת – מְבָרְכִין עָלָיו ״בּוֹרֵא פְּרִי הַגֶּפֶן״. וְרַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר: גַּבֵּי חַמְרָא דְּאַקְרֵים לְמָה לִי?

§ Apropos wine that is sold in the shops, the Gemara considers additional halakhot pertaining to such wine: Rav Yehuda says: Over wine of the same quality as that which is sold in the shops, one recites the standard blessing for wine: Who creates fruit of the vine. Despite the fact that such wine is not of the highest quality, it is still regarded as wine. And Rav Ḥisda said: Over wine that has formed a film as it begins to sour, why do I need to recite the blessing for wine? Since it has begun to sour, it is no longer regarded as wine. Instead, one should recite the generic blessing recited over foods of lower importance: By Whose word all things came to be.

מֵיתִיבִי: עַל הַפַּת שֶׁעִפְּשָׁה, וְעַל הַיַּיִן שֶׁהִקְרִים, וְעַל תַּבְשִׁיל שֶׁעִבְּרָה צוּרָתוֹ – אוֹמֵר ״שֶׁהַכֹּל נִהְיֶה בִּדְבָרוֹ״!

The Gemara raises an objection to Rav Yehuda’s opinion. It is taught in a baraita: Over bread that has become moldy, and over wine that has formed a film, and over a cooked dish that has spoiled, one recites the blessing: By Whose word all things came to be. Since these foods have partially spoiled, it is inappropriate to recite the specific blessings designated for such foods in their fresh state.

אָמַר רַב זְבִיד: מוֹדֶה רַב יְהוּדָה בְּפוּרְצְמָא דְּמִיזְדַּבַּן אַקַּרְנָתָא.

Rav Zevid said: Rav Yehuda concedes that one does not recite the blessing of: Who creates fruit of the vine, on wine made from grape seeds that is sold on the street corners. It is to such significantly inferior wine that the baraita refers. Wine sold in the shops still has the taste and appearance of wine, so one should recite the standard blessing for wine.

אָמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי לְרַב יוֹסֵף: הָא רַב יְהוּדָה, הָא רַב חִסְדָּא; מָר כְּמַאן סְבִירָא לֵיהּ? אָמַר לֵיהּ: מַתְנִיתָא יָדַעְנָא.

Abaye said to Rav Yosef: This is the opinion of Rav Yehuda, and this is the opinion of Rav Ḥisda. In accordance with whose opinion does the Master hold? Rav Yosef said to him: I know a baraita from which it is possible to derive the halakha.

חדשה בלימוד הגמרא?

זה הדף הראשון שלך? איזו התרגשות עצומה! יש לנו בדיוק את התכנים והכלים שיעזרו לך לעשות את הצעדים הראשונים ללמידה בקצב וברמה שלך, כך תוכלי להרגיש בנוח גם בתוך הסוגיות המורכבות ומאתגרות.

פסיפס הלומדות שלנו

גלי את קהילת הלומדות שלנו, מגוון נשים, רקעים וסיפורים. כולן חלק מתנועה ומסע מרגש ועוצמתי.

אמא שלי למדה איתי ש”ס משנה, והתחילה ללמוד דף יומי. אני החלטתי שאני רוצה ללמוד גם. בהתחלה למדתי איתה, אח”כ הצטרפתי ללימוד דף יומי שהרב דני וינט מעביר לנוער בנים בעתניאל. במסכת עירובין עוד חברה הצטרפה אלי וכשהתחלנו פסחים הרב דני פתח לנו שעור דף יומי לבנות. מאז אנחנו לומדות איתו קבוע כל יום את הדף היומי (ובשבת אבא שלי מחליף אותו). אני נהנית מהלימוד, הוא מאתגר ומעניין

Renana Hellman
רננה הלמן

עתניאל, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד דף יומי בתחילת מסכת ברכות, עוד לא ידעתי כלום. נחשפתי לסיום הש״ס, ובעצם להתחלה מחדש בתקשורת, הפתיע אותי לטובה שהיה מקום לעיסוק בתורה.
את המסכתות הראשונות למדתי, אבל לא סיימתי (חוץ מעירובין איכשהו). השנה כשהגעתי למדרשה, נכנסתי ללופ, ואני מצליחה להיות חלק, סיימתי עם החברותא שלי את כל המסכתות הקצרות, גם כשהיינו חולות קורונה ובבידודים, למדנו לבד, העיקר לא לצבור פער, ומחכות ליבמות 🙂

Eden Yeshuron
עדן ישורון

מזכרת בתיה, ישראל

התחלתי לפני כמה שנים אבל רק בסבב הזה זכיתי ללמוד יום יום ולסיים מסכתות

Sigal Tel
סיגל טל

רעננה, ישראל

התחלתי להשתתף בשיעור נשים פעם בשבוע, תכננתי ללמוד רק דפים בודדים, לא האמנתי שאצליח יותר מכך.
לאט לאט נשאבתי פנימה לעולם הלימוד .משתדלת ללמוד כל בוקר ומתחילה את היום בתחושה של מלאות ומתוך התכווננות נכונה יותר.
הלימוד של הדף היומי ממלא אותי בתחושה של חיבור עמוק לעם היהודי ולכל הלומדים בעבר ובהווה.

Neely Hayon
נילי חיון

אפרת, ישראל

התחלתי בתחילת הסבב, והתמכרתי. זה נותן משמעות נוספת ליומיום ומאוד מחזק לתת לזה מקום בתוך כל שגרת הבית-עבודה השוטפת.

Reut Abrahami
רעות אברהמי

בית שמש, ישראל

A friend in the SF Bay Area said in Dec 2019 that she might start listening on her morning drive to work. I mentioned to my husband and we decided to try the Daf when it began in Jan 2020 as part of our preparing to make Aliyah in the summer.

Hana Piotrkovsky
חנה פיוטרקובסקי

ירושלים, Israel

סיום השס לנשים נתן לי מוטביציה להתחיל ללמוד דף יומי. עד אז למדתי גמרא בשבתות ועשיתי כמה סיומים. אבל לימוד יומיומי זה שונה לגמרי ופתאום כל דבר שקורה בחיים מתקשר לדף היומי.

Fogel Foundation
קרן פוגל

רתמים, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד דף יומי שהתחילו מסכת כתובות, לפני 7 שנים, במסגרת קבוצת לימוד שהתפרקה די מהר, ומשם המשכתי לבד בתמיכת האיש שלי. נעזרתי בגמרת שטיינזלץ ובשיעורים מוקלטים.
הסביבה מאד תומכת ואני מקבלת המון מילים טובות לאורך כל הדרך. מאז הסיום הגדול יש תחושה שאני חלק מדבר גדול יותר.
אני לומדת בשיטת ה”7 דפים בשבוע” של הרבנית תרצה קלמן – כלומר, לא נורא אם לא הצלחת ללמוד כל יום, העיקר שגמרת ארבעה דפים בשבוע

Rachel Goldstein
רחל גולדשטיין

עתניאל, ישראל

התחלתי מחוג במסכת קידושין שהעבירה הרבנית רייסנר במסגרת בית המדרש כלנה בגבעת שמואל; לאחר מכן התחיל סבב הדף היומי אז הצטרפתי. לסביבה לקח זמן לעכל אבל היום כולם תומכים ומשתתפים איתי. הלימוד לעתים מעניין ומעשיר ולעתים קשה ואף הזוי… אך אני ממשיכה קדימה. הוא משפיע על היומיום שלי קודם כל במרדף אחרי הדף, וגם במושגים הרבים שלמדתי ובידע שהועשרתי בו, חלקו ממש מעשי

Abigail Chrissy
אביגיל כריסי

ראש העין, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד בעידוד שתי חברות אתן למדתי בעבר את הפרק היומי במסגרת 929.
בבית מתלהבים מאוד ובשבת אני לומדת את הדף עם בעלי שזה מפתיע ומשמח מאוד! לימוד הדף הוא חלק בלתי נפרד מהיום שלי. לומדת בצהריים ומחכה לזמן הזה מידי יום…

Miriam Wengerover
מרים ונגרובר

אפרת, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד לפני 4.5 שנים, כשהודיה חברה שלי פתחה קבוצת ווטסאפ ללימוד דף יומי בתחילת מסכת סנהדרין. מאז לימוד הדף נכנס לתוך היום-יום שלי והפך לאחד ממגדירי הזהות שלי ממש.

Rosenberg Foundation
קרן רוזנברג

ירושלים, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד לפני כשנתיים בשאיפה לסיים לראשונה מסכת אחת במהלך חופשת הלידה.
אחרי מסכת אחת כבר היה קשה להפסיק…

Noa Gallant
נעה גלנט

ירוחם, ישראל

כבר סיפרתי בסיום של מועד קטן.
הלימוד מאוד משפיעה על היום שלי כי אני לומדת עם רבנית מישל על הבוקר בזום. זה נותן טון לכל היום – בסיס למחשבות שלי .זה זכות גדול להתחיל את היום בלימוד ובתפילה. תודה רבה !

שרה-ברלוביץ
שרה ברלוביץ

ירושלים, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד בשנת המדרשה במגדל עוז, בינתיים נהנית מאוד מהלימוד ומהגמרא, מעניין ומשמח מאוד!
משתדלת להצליח לעקוב כל יום, לפעמים משלימה קצת בהמשך השבוע.. מרגישה שיש עוגן מקובע ביום שלי והוא משמח מאוד!

Uriah Kesner
אוריה קסנר

חיפה , ישראל

למדתי גמרא מכיתה ז- ט ב Maimonides School ואחרי העליה שלי בגיל 14 לימוד הגמרא, שלא היה כל כך מקובל בימים אלה, היה די ספוראדי. אחרי "ההתגלות” בבנייני האומה התחלתי ללמוד בעיקר בדרך הביתה למדתי מפוקקטסים שונים. לאט לאט ראיתי שאני תמיד חוזרת לרבנית מישל פרבר. באיזה שהוא שלב התחלתי ללמוד בזום בשעה 7:10 .
היום "אין מצב” שאני אתחיל את היום שלי ללא לימוד עם הרבנית מישל עם כוס הקפה שלי!!

selfie-scaled
דבי גביר

חשמונאים, ישראל

התחלתי ללמוד גמרא בבית הספר בגיל צעיר והתאהבתי. המשכתי בכך כל חיי ואף היייתי מורה לגמרא בבית הספר שקד בשדה אליהו (בית הספר בו למדתי בילדותי)בתחילת מחזור דף יומי הנוכחי החלטתי להצטרף ובע”ה מקווה להתמיד ולהמשיך. אני אוהבת את המפגש עם הדף את "דרישות השלום ” שמקבלת מקשרים עם דפים אחרים שלמדתי את הסנכרון שמתחולל בין התכנים.

Ariela Bigman
אריאלה ביגמן

מעלה גלבוע, ישראל

לצערי גדלתי בדור שבו לימוד גמרא לנשים לא היה דבר שבשגרה ושנים שאני חולמת להשלים את הפער הזה.. עד שלפני מספר שבועות, כמעט במקרה, נתקלתי במודעת פרסומת הקוראת להצטרף ללימוד מסכת תענית. כשקראתי את המודעה הרגשתי שהיא כאילו נכתבה עבורי – "תמיד חלמת ללמוד גמרא ולא ידעת איך להתחיל”, "בואי להתנסות במסכת קצרה וקלה” (רק היה חסר שהמודעה תיפתח במילים "מיכי שלום”..). קפצתי למים ו- ב”ה אני בדרך להגשמת החלום:)

Micah Kadosh
מיכי קדוש

מורשת, ישראל

"
גם אני התחלתי בסבב הנוכחי וב””ה הצלחתי לסיים את רוב המסכתות . בזכות הרבנית מישל משתדלת לפתוח את היום בשיעור הזום בשעה 6:20 .הלימוד הפך להיות חלק משמעותי בחיי ויש ימים בהם אני מצליחה לחזור על הדף עם מלמדים נוספים ששיעוריהם נמצאים במרשתת. שמחה להיות חלק מקהילת לומדות ברחבי העולם. ובמיוחד לשמש דוגמה לנכדותיי שאי””ה יגדלו לדור שלימוד תורה לנשים יהיה משהו שבשגרה. "

Ronit Shavit
רונית שביט

נתניה, ישראל

התחלתי לפני כמה שנים אבל רק בסבב הזה זכיתי ללמוד יום יום ולסיים מסכתות

Sigal Tel
סיגל טל

רעננה, ישראל

A life-changing journey started with a Chanukah family tiyul to Zippori, home of the Sanhedrin 2 years ago and continued with the Syum in Binanei Hauma where I was awed by the energy of 3000 women dedicated to learning daf Yomi. Opening my morning daily with a fresh daf, I am excited with the new insights I find enriching my life and opening new and deeper horizons for me.

Becky Goldstein
בקי גולדשטיין

Elazar gush etzion, Israel

בבא בתרא צה

הָתָם, ״הֵן חָסֵר הֵן יָתֵיר״ אֲמַר לֵיהּ, מִיהוּ רְבִיעַ לָא חֲשִׁיב; יָתֵר מֵרְבִיעַ – חֲשִׁיב,

There, in the case of the sale of land, the reason the buyer may keep the extra land when it is less than the acceptable limit is that the seller said to him: I am selling you this piece of land whether it is slightly less or slightly more than a beit kor, i.e., he agrees to accept a small deviation from the stated area. But while an extra quarterkav area per beit se’a is not significant, and therefore the seller is willing to forgo it, more than a quarterkav area per beit se’a is significant, and the seller is not willing to forgo any of it. Consequently, all of the extra land must be returned. By contrast, in the case of Rav Huna’s ruling, the buyer is aware that it is normal to have a certain proportion of impurities mixed in and accepts this possibility from the outset. Accordingly, even if the proportion of impurities is greater than the acceptable limit, it might be sufficient if the seller takes back only the quantity of impurities above the acceptable limit.

דְּכֵיוָן דַּחֲזֵי לֵיהּ לְאִיצְטְרוֹפֵי בְּתִשְׁעַת קַבִּין, הָוְיָא לַהּ אַרְעָא חֲשִׁיבְתָּא בְּאַפֵּי נַפְשָׁא; וְהָדְרָא.

The Gemara explains why more than an area required to sow a quarter-kav of seed per beit se’a of land is significant: The reason is that since all those extra areas of land are fit to combine together to form an area in which one could sow nine kav of seed, the extra land is a significant plot of land in its own right, and therefore it must all be returned. The land that was sold was stated to be a beit kor, which is thirty beit se’a. If the area of the extra land was of a proportion somewhat more than an area required to sow a quarter-kav of seed per beit se’a of land, then thirty such areas would collectively be about equal to an area required to sow nine kav.

תָּא שְׁמַע: הָאוֹנָאָה; פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁתוּת – נִקְנֶה מִקָּח, יוֹתֵר מִשְּׁתוּת – בָּטֵל מִקָּח. שְׁתוּת – קָנָה, וּמַחְזִיר אוֹנָאָה.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a support for Rav Huna’s ruling from a baraita: The halakha of price exploitation is that if the disparity is less than one-sixth of the value of the merchandise, the merchandise is acquired immediately and the sum of the exploitation need not be returned. If the disparity is greater than one-sixth, then the transaction is nullified. If the disparity is precisely one-sixth, the buyer has acquired the merchandise, and the one who benefited from the exploitation returns the entire sum of the exploitation.

אַמַּאי? לַיהְדַּר עַד פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁתוּת! שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ, כׇּל הֵיכִי דְּבָעֵי לְאַהְדּוֹרֵי – כּוּלַּהּ מַהְדַּר!

The Gemara explains the proof: Why, in the case where the disparity is precisely one-sixth, is the entire sum of the exploitation returned? Instead, let him return only a small amount of the exploitation until the difference is less than one-sixth. The Gemara concludes: Learn from the fact that he must return the entire sum that when one is required to return part of a sale because of a discrepancy that is beyond the acceptable limit of deviation, one is required to return the entire discrepancy and not just the amount that is beyond the acceptable limit. This supports Rav Huna’s ruling.

הָכִי הַשְׁתָּא?! הָתָם, מֵעִיקָּרָא שָׁוֶה בְּשָׁוֶה אֲמַר לֵיהּ, מִיהוּ, פָּחוֹת מִשְּׁתוּת לָא יְדִיעָה בְּמָנֶה, וּמָחֵיל אִינִישׁ; שְׁתוּת – יְדִיעָה, וְלָא מָחֵיל אִינִישׁ, יָתֵר מִשְּׁתוּת – מִקָּח טָעוּת הוּא, וּבָטֵל מִקָּח.

The Gemara rejects this: How can these cases be compared? There, in the case of exploitation, the seller initially said to the buyer that he would sell the merchandise for a sum equal to its value. Any price difference should be unacceptable. But a disparity of less than one-sixth is not recognizable in a sale worth one hundred dinars, and a person will forgo it. By contrast, a disparity of one-sixth is considered significant, and a person will not forgo it. Consequently, the entire sum of the exploitation must be returned. If the disparity is greater than one-sixth, it is a mistaken transaction and the transaction is nullified. By contrast, in the case of Rav Huna’s ruling, the buyer is aware that it is normal to have a certain proportion of impurities mixed in and accepted that possibility from the outset. Accordingly, even if the proportion of impurities was greater than the acceptable limit, it might be sufficient if the seller takes back only the quantity of impurities above the acceptable limit.

תָּא שְׁמַע: הַמְקַבֵּל שָׂדֶה מֵחֲבֵרוֹ לִיטַּע – הֲרֵי זֶה מְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר בּוֹרִיּוֹת לְמֵאָה. יוֹתֵר מִכָּאן – מְגַלְגְּלִין עָלָיו אֶת הַכֹּל.

The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a support for Rav Huna’s ruling from a baraita: When one receives a field from another under a contract to plant trees in it, then this field owner accepts upon himself that there may be ten deficient trees per every hundred trees planted, as he is aware that not every tree planted will necessarily flourish. If the number of deficient trees is more than this, the court imposes upon him the responsibility to replace all of those trees, and not only the number of trees above the acceptable limit. This supports Rav Huna’s ruling.

אָמַר רַב הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב יְהוֹשֻׁעַ: כׇּל יָתֵר מִכָּאן, כְּבָא לִיטַּע מִתְּחִלָּה דָּמֵי.

Rav Huna, son of Rav Yehoshua, said: There is no proof from this case, because any time there are more than this number of deficient trees, the overall area that contains the deficient trees is of a size equivalent to a whole field. Therefore, the contractor is comparable to one who comes to plant a whole field from the outset, who has not fulfilled his remit if he plants only a few trees; rather, he must plant the entire area. But in the case of Rav Huna’s ruling, the impurities never constitute an independent unit; consequently, it might be sufficient if the seller takes back only the quantity of impurities that is above the acceptable limit.

מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן וְכוּ׳. הֵיכִי דָּמֵי? אִי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ סְתָם – קַשְׁיָא; אִי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ – קַשְׁיָא.

§ The mishna teaches: When purchasing a cellar containing barrels of wine, one accepts upon himself that up to ten barrels of souring wine may be present in each hundred barrels purchased. The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of the sale? If one said to the buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, without specification of which cellar he meant, it is difficult, as the Gemara will soon explain. And if he said to him: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, it is difficult.

אִי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ: ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה״ – קַשְׁיָא, דְּתַנְיָא: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – אֲפִילּוּ כּוּלּוֹ חוֹמֶץ, הִגִּיעוֹ!

The Gemara elaborates: If he said to him: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, it is difficult, as it is taught in a baraita: If one said to a buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality, i.e., the buyer does not have to accept any quantity of souring wine. If he said: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, then he may give him the wine that is in his possession, even if it is of the quality that is sold in the shops, i.e., it is beginning to sour. If he said: I am selling to you this particular cellar, without mentioning the word: Wine, then even if everything he gives him is wine that had turned into vinegar, it has come to the buyer and the sale is valid. The mishna’s ruling that the buyer must accept that up to ten percent of the wine might be souring does not accord with any of the rulings of the baraita.

לְעוֹלָם דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ – סְתָם, וְתָנֵי בְּרֵישָׁא דְבָרַיְיתָא: וּמְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר קוֹסְסוֹת לְמֵאָה.

The Gemara answers: Actually, the mishna concerns a case when he said to the buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, without specification of which cellar he was selling. And emend the baraita and teach the following qualification in the first clause of the baraita: And the buyer accepts upon himself that up to ten barrels of souring wine may be present in each hundred barrels purchased.

וּבִסְתָם מִי מְקַבֵּל?! וְהָא תָּאנֵי רַבִּי חִיָּיא: הַמּוֹכֵר חָבִית יַיִן לַחֲבֵרוֹ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה! שָׁאנֵי חָבִית, דְּכוּלָּא חַד חַמְרָא הוּא.

The Gemara challenges this addition: But if he sold the buyer a wine cellar without specification of which one he was selling, does the buyer accept upon himself any souring wine at all? Didn’t Rabbi Ḥiyya teach: One who sells a barrel of wine to another must give him wine that is all of good quality? The Gemara answers: A barrel is different, because the wine inside is all one body of wine of the same quality.

וְהָא תָּנֵי רַב זְבִיד דְּבֵי רַבִּי אוֹשַׁעְיָא: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וּמְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר קוֹסְסוֹת לְמֵאָה,

The Gemara once again challenges the addition: But didn’t Rav Zevid teach a baraita of the school of Rabbi Oshaya: If one says to a buyer: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality? Similarly, if he said: I am selling to you this particular wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality, but the buyer accepts upon himself ten souring barrels per hundred barrels.

וְזֶהוּ אוֹצָר שֶׁשָּׁנוּ חֲכָמִים בְּמִשְׁנָתֵינוּ!

Rav Zevid concludes: And this is the case of the storeroom, i.e., the cellar, that the Sages taught in the mishna. It is clear from this baraita both that it contradicts the suggested addition to the previous baraita, and that the mishna concerns a case where one specified which wine cellar he was selling.

אֶלָּא מַתְנִיתִין נָמֵי דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ ״זֶה״.

Rather, as indicated by the baraita, the mishna also concerns a case where one says to the buyer: I am selling you this particular cellar, and because he specified a particular cellar the buyer accepts upon himself the possibility that up to ten barrels per hundred might be sour.

קַשְׁיָא ״זֶה״ אַ״זֶּה״!

Having retracted the addition to the first baraita, the Gemara asks: If so, it is difficult to reconcile the first baraita, which rules that if the seller specified that he was selling this cellar, he must provide wine that is all of good quality, with the second baraita, that of Rav Zevid, which rules with regard to the same case, in which the seller specified he was selling this cellar, that the buyer accepts that up to ten barrels per hundred may contain souring wine.

לָא קַשְׁיָא; הָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, הָא דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה. דְּרַב זְבִיד – דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, בָּרַיְיתָא – דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה.

The Gemara answers: This is not difficult. This baraita is referring to a case where the buyer said to him that he needs the wine for cooking, and therefore he requires good-quality wine, whereas that baraita is referring to a case where the buyer did not say to him that he needs the wine for cooking. The Gemara elaborates: The second baraita, taught by Rav Zevid, is referring to a case where the buyer said that he needs the wine for cooking, whereas the first baraita is referring to a case where the buyer did not say to him that he requires it for cooking.

הִלְכָּךְ, ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְאָמַר לוֹ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וּמְקַבֵּל עָלָיו עֶשֶׂר קוֹסְסוֹת לְמֵאָה. ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת.

The Gemara concludes: Therefore, the halakha is that if one said that he is selling: A wine cellar, and the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking, then the seller is obligated to give him wine that is all of good quality. If one said that he is selling: This particular wine cellar, and the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking, then the seller is obligated to give him wine that is all of good quality, but the buyer accepts upon himself ten barrels of souring wine in each hundred barrels purchased. If one said that he is selling: This particular wine cellar, and the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, then the seller may give to him the wine that is in his possession, even if it is of a quality that is sold in the shops, i.e., it is beginning to sour.

אִיבַּעְיָא לְהוּ: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, מַאי? פְּלִיגִי בַּהּ רַב אַחָא וְרָבִינָא; חַד אָמַר: מְקַבֵּל, וְחַד אָמַר: לָא מְקַבֵּל.

A dilemma was raised before the Sages: If one said that he is selling: A wine cellar, and the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, what is the halakha? Rav Aḥa and Ravina disagree about this. One says: The buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred, and the other one says: The buyer need not accept any barrels of souring wine.

מַאן דְּאָמַר מְקַבֵּל – דָּיֵיק מִדְּרַב זְבִיד, דְּקָתָנֵי: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וְאוֹקִימְנָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה; טַעְמָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, הָא לָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – מְקַבֵּל.

The Gemara explains their reasoning. The one who says that the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred infers this through a precise reading of the baraita of Rav Zevid, as it teaches: If one says: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality. And we interpreted this baraita as referring to a case where the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking. The Gemara explains the inference: The only reason that he must provide him with wine that is all of good quality is that the buyer said to him that he needed it for cooking. By inference, where the buyer does not say to him: I need it for cooking, the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred.

וּמַאן דְּאָמַר לָא מְקַבֵּל – דָּיֵיק מִבָּרַיְיתָא, דְּקָתָנֵי: ״מַרְתֵּף שֶׁל יַיִן אֲנִי מוֹכֵר לָךְ״ – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן שֶׁכּוּלּוֹ יָפֶה, וְאוֹקֵימְנָא דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה.

And the one who says that the buyer need not accept any barrels of souring wine infers this through a precise reading of the first baraita, as it teaches: If one says: I am selling to you a wine cellar, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality. And we interpreted this baraita as referring to a case where he did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, and even so, the buyer need not accept any barrels of souring wine.

וּלְמַאן דְּדָיֵיק מִדְּרַב זְבִיד, קַשְׁיָא בָּרַיְיתָא! חַסּוֹרֵי מְחַסְּרָא, וְהָכִי קָתָנֵי: בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים – דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה; הָא לָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – מְקַבֵּל. וּ״מַרְתֵּף זֶה שֶׁל יַיִן״ וְלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – נוֹתֵן לוֹ יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת.

The Gemara asks: But then, according to the one who infers his opinion through a precise reading of the baraita of Rav Zevid, the first baraita poses a difficulty. The Gemara answers that according to his opinion, the baraita is incomplete and this is what it is teaching: If one says: I am selling to you a cellar of wine, then he is required to give him wine that is all of good quality. In what case is this statement said? It is said in a case where the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking. By inference, where the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred. And if one said that he is selling: This particular wine cellar, and the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, then one may give to him the wine that is in his possession, even if it is of a quality that is sold in the shops, i.e., it is beginning to sour.

וּלְמַאן דְּדָיֵיק מִבָּרַיְיתָא, קַשְׁיָא דְּרַב זְבִיד – דְּאוֹקֵימְנָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, הָא לָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – מְקַבֵּל!

The Gemara asks: And according to the one who infers his opinion through a precise reading of the first baraita, the baraita of Rav Zevid poses a difficulty, as we interpreted it as referring to a case where the buyer said to him: I need the wine for cooking. And this opinion inferred that if the buyer did not say to him: I need it for cooking, then the buyer must accept ten barrels of souring wine per hundred.

הוּא הַדִּין דְּאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה – לָא מְקַבֵּל, וְהַאי דְּאוֹקֵימְנָא דְּאָמַר לֵיהּ לְמִקְפָּה, מִשּׁוּם דְּקַשְׁיָא ״זֶה״ אַ״זֶּה״.

The Gemara answers: The same is true according to both baraitot, that even where the buyer did not say to him: I need the wine for cooking, the buyer need not accept ten barrels of souring wine. And there is no proof from the fact that we interpreted the baraita as referring to a case where he said to him: I need it for cooking, since we did so only due to the difficulty of the contradiction between the ruling of the first baraita in the case where the seller specified that he was selling this cellar and the ruling of the baraita of Rav Zevid in the same case where the seller specified he was selling this cellar. Due to that difficulty, the entire baraita was interpreted as referring to a case where the buyer said: I need the wine for cooking, despite the fact that in the case where he did not mention a specific cellar it makes no difference whether or not he said so.

אָמַר רַב יְהוּדָה: יַיִן הַנִּמְכָּר בַּחֲנוּת – מְבָרְכִין עָלָיו ״בּוֹרֵא פְּרִי הַגֶּפֶן״. וְרַב חִסְדָּא אָמַר: גַּבֵּי חַמְרָא דְּאַקְרֵים לְמָה לִי?

§ Apropos wine that is sold in the shops, the Gemara considers additional halakhot pertaining to such wine: Rav Yehuda says: Over wine of the same quality as that which is sold in the shops, one recites the standard blessing for wine: Who creates fruit of the vine. Despite the fact that such wine is not of the highest quality, it is still regarded as wine. And Rav Ḥisda said: Over wine that has formed a film as it begins to sour, why do I need to recite the blessing for wine? Since it has begun to sour, it is no longer regarded as wine. Instead, one should recite the generic blessing recited over foods of lower importance: By Whose word all things came to be.

מֵיתִיבִי: עַל הַפַּת שֶׁעִפְּשָׁה, וְעַל הַיַּיִן שֶׁהִקְרִים, וְעַל תַּבְשִׁיל שֶׁעִבְּרָה צוּרָתוֹ – אוֹמֵר ״שֶׁהַכֹּל נִהְיֶה בִּדְבָרוֹ״!

The Gemara raises an objection to Rav Yehuda’s opinion. It is taught in a baraita: Over bread that has become moldy, and over wine that has formed a film, and over a cooked dish that has spoiled, one recites the blessing: By Whose word all things came to be. Since these foods have partially spoiled, it is inappropriate to recite the specific blessings designated for such foods in their fresh state.

אָמַר רַב זְבִיד: מוֹדֶה רַב יְהוּדָה בְּפוּרְצְמָא דְּמִיזְדַּבַּן אַקַּרְנָתָא.

Rav Zevid said: Rav Yehuda concedes that one does not recite the blessing of: Who creates fruit of the vine, on wine made from grape seeds that is sold on the street corners. It is to such significantly inferior wine that the baraita refers. Wine sold in the shops still has the taste and appearance of wine, so one should recite the standard blessing for wine.

אָמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי לְרַב יוֹסֵף: הָא רַב יְהוּדָה, הָא רַב חִסְדָּא; מָר כְּמַאן סְבִירָא לֵיהּ? אָמַר לֵיהּ: מַתְנִיתָא יָדַעְנָא.

Abaye said to Rav Yosef: This is the opinion of Rav Yehuda, and this is the opinion of Rav Ḥisda. In accordance with whose opinion does the Master hold? Rav Yosef said to him: I know a baraita from which it is possible to derive the halakha.

רוצה לעקוב אחרי התכנים ולהמשיך ללמוד?

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